Re: [OSPF] update "draft-kou-ospf-immediately-replying-hello-00.txt"

mike shand <mshand@cisco.com> Mon, 19 June 2006 09:56 UTC

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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:56:24 +0100
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com>
From: mike shand <mshand@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [OSPF] update "draft-kou-ospf-immediately-replying-hello-00.txt"
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At 20:09 17/06/2006, Acee Lindem wrote:
>Hi Zengjie,
>Russ White wrote:
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> >>Speaking as a WG member, my personal opinion is that the WG should
> >>accept this document an an informational of BCP track RFC.
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> >This sounds fine.... Count my vote in that direction, as well.
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> >
>Actually, I meant NOT accept as WG document I guess that what I get for
>trying
>to respond to E-mail sitting in the middle seat on a crowded plane. Here
>is my
>reasoning why:
>
>1. This behavior is not new - there are several implementations that
>already reply immediately in certain situations.
>2. There are many ways of doing this and it is unlikely we will
>agree on the exact details of how it should be done. I, for one,
>have implemented it differently than documented in this draft.

and more particularly it doesn't matter from an interoperability 
point of view which way you do it, so
this doesn't seem to be behaviour which it makes sense to standardize.

         Mike



>I just don't think there is that much to be gained by documenting
>this after the fact when there isn't agreement on the sudtleties of
>operation.
>
>Sorry for the confusion.
>
>Thanks,
>Acee
>
> >:-)
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> >Russ
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> >- --
> >riw@cisco.com CCIE <>< Grace Alone
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