Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config
Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> Thu, 07 January 2016 13:00 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config
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I would think that it's OK to use the terms provided that it is defined, and it certainly needs to be defined. Stewart On 07/01/2016 11:43, Alexander Vainshtein wrote: > > Mach, > > Lots of thanks for a prompt response and a valid clarification. > > Since there seem to be at least two of us puzzled by the term “dyadic > mode”, I would suggest either to replace it with its equivalent > “dual-ended measurement” (which, IMHO, is much better understood) or, > at least, explain the use of the term. > > Regards, > > Sasha > > Office: +972-39266302 > > Cell: +972-549266302 > > Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com > > *From:*Mach Chen [mailto:mach.chen@huawei.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2016 10:52 AM > *To:* Alexander Vainshtein; Stewart Bryant > *Cc:* draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config@tools.ietf.org; > Elisa.bellagamba@gmail.com; pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org; > wu.bo@zte.com.cn; pals@ietf.org > *Subject:* RE: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config > > Hi Shasha, > > Thanks for your time to read the draft! > > When I first saw your email, honestly, I also have no idea of what the > "Dyadic" is. I thought that it may be a typo :-). So, I read the > draft again and find that Dyadic mode is actually defined in > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6374#section-2.7. > > Most of the configration definitions are align with > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf-16 and > http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7487 > <http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7487>. So, they should be right/wrong > for those common difinitions:-) > > Best regards, > > Mach > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Pals [pals-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Alexander Vainshtein > [Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 06, 2016 21:35 > *To:* Stewart Bryant > *Cc:* draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config@tools.ietf.org > <mailto:draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config@tools.ietf.org>; > Elisa.bellagamba@gmail.com <mailto:Elisa.bellagamba@gmail.com>; > pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org <mailto:pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org>; > wu.bo@zte.com.cn <mailto:wu.bo@zte.com.cn>; pals@ietf.org > <mailto:pals@ietf.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config > > Stewart, > > I will try to read the draft and provide some feedback by January 22nd. > > Meanwhile, while looking for the total number of pages in order to > understand whether I can handle this, I have found a reference to a > "/Dyadic mode of an egress LSR/". I have to admit that I do not know > what this means, and a short look-up in the Internet did not return > anything useful (unless somebody is going to use 2nd order tensors > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyadics> in MPLSJ). > > If the authors could explain in advance what they mean, it would > simplify the review. > > Regards, > > Sasha > > Office: +972-39266302 > > Cell: +972-549266302 > > Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com > <mailto:Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pals [mailto:pals-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Stewart Bryant > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 12:34 PM > To: draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config@tools.ietf.org > <mailto:draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config@tools.ietf.org>; > pals@ietf.org <mailto:pals@ietf.org>; pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org > <mailto:pals-chairs@tools.ietf.org>; wu.bo@zte.com.cn > <mailto:wu.bo@zte.com.cn>; Elisa.bellagamba@gmail.com > <mailto:Elisa.bellagamba@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config > > Hi Folks > > I guess that everyone has been busy over the holiday period. > > I really need some indication on the list that the WG wants to publish > this draft, otherwise I cannot take it forward to the IESG. > > I also need some volunteers to read the draft and check it over for > errors. > > So please can have reviews and confirmation that we should go forward > with publication by 22nd January 2016. > > Thanks > > Stewart > > On 23/12/2015 13:00, Stewart Bryant wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 09/12/2015 14:13, Stewart Bryant wrote: > > >> This message starts the WG Last Call on draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config. > > >> > > >> This draft can be found at > > >> > > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config/ > > >> > > >> Please respond to this thread with substantive comments and an > > >> indication of whether you have read the text and whether or not you > > >> think it is ready for publication. > > >> > > >> I will close WGLC on 23rd December. > > >> > > >> Regards > > >> > > >> - Stewart > > > > > > PALS WG > > > > > > I should close this LC today, but I have no evidence in terms of list > > > traffic in response to this LC that I can present to the IESG that > > > anyone has read it or cares whether we publish it of not. > > > > > > Has anyone besides the chairs and authors read it? > > > > > > Should we publish it, and why? > > > > > > - Stewart > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pals mailing list > > Pals@ietf.org <mailto:Pals@ietf.org> > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pals >
- [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config Stewart Bryant
- Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-co… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-co… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-co… Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-co… Mach Chen
- Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-co… Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-co… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-co… Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-co… Mach Chen
- Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-co… Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-co… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-co… Mach Chen