Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config

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From: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>
To: Mach Chen <mach.chen@huawei.com>
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Mach,
Lots of thanks for a prompt response and a valid clarification.
Since there seem to be at least two of us puzzled by the term "dyadic mode", I would suggest either to replace it with its equivalent "dual-ended measurement" (which, IMHO, is much better understood) or, at least, explain the use of the term.

Regards,
Sasha

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Subject: RE: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config


Hi Shasha,



Thanks for your time to read the draft!



When I first saw your email, honestly, I also have no idea of what the "Dyadic" is. I thought that it may be a typo :-).  So, I read the draft again and find that Dyadic mode is actually defined in https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6374#section-2.7.



Most of the configration definitions are align with https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf-16 and http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7487. So, they should be right/wrong for those common difinitions:-)





Best regards,

Mach

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Subject: Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config

Stewart,

I will try to read the draft and provide some feedback by January 22nd.



Meanwhile, while looking for the total number of pages in order to understand whether I can handle this, I have found a reference to a "Dyadic mode of an egress LSR". I have to admit that I do not know what this means, and a short look-up in the Internet did not return anything useful (unless somebody is going to use 2nd order tensors<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyadics> in MPLS:)).



If the authors could explain in advance what they mean, it would simplify the review.



Regards,

Sasha



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Subject: Re: [Pals] WG Last call draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config



Hi Folks



I guess that everyone has been busy over the holiday period.



I really need some indication on the list that the WG wants to publish this draft, otherwise I cannot take it forward to the IESG.



I also need some volunteers to read the draft and check it over for errors.



So please can  have reviews and confirmation that we should go forward with publication by 22nd January 2016.



Thanks



Stewart



On 23/12/2015 13:00, Stewart Bryant wrote:

>

>

> On 09/12/2015 14:13, Stewart Bryant wrote:

>> This message starts the WG Last Call on draft-ietf-pals-tp-oam-config.

>>

>> This draft can be found at

>>

>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pals-mpls-tp-oam-config/

>>

>> Please respond to this thread with substantive comments and an

>> indication of whether you have read the text and whether or not you

>> think it is ready for publication.

>>

>> I will close WGLC on 23rd December.

>>

>> Regards

>>

>> - Stewart

>

> PALS WG

>

> I should close this LC today, but I have no evidence in terms of list

> traffic in response to this LC that I can present to the IESG  that

> anyone has read it or cares whether we  publish it of not.

>

> Has anyone besides the chairs and authors read it?

>

> Should we publish it, and why?

>

> - Stewart

>



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