Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-ipsec
"Alper Yegin" <alper.yegin@yegin.org> Wed, 15 April 2009 13:51 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-ipsec
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Jari, PaC-EP-Master-Key used to be defined in PANA base specification. Sam Hartman had asked it be split into a separate document, so we did. PaC-EP-Master-Key is the glue between PANA and the PaC-EP secure association protocols. PaC-EP-Master-Key definition is agnostic to the PaC-EP secure association protocol, therefore I don't think it makes sense to embed that into individual protocol document(s). Alper > -----Original Message----- > From: pana-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pana-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Jari Arkko > Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 9:22 AM > To: Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com > Cc: yohba@tari.toshiba.com; pana@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-ipsec > > Can we technically specify the IPsec parts without PEMK? If yes, we > should do it. If not, we have an issue. > > Quickly scanning through the documents, PaC-EP-Master-Key does not seem > to be defined in RFC 5191 but it is used by draft-ietf-pana-ipsec. At > the very least we need a definition of Pac-EP-Master-Key in > draft-ietf-pana-ipsec, not sure if a separate document is needed. > > Jari > > Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com wrote: > > Hi Yoshi, > > > > Current intent is to complete the WG I-Ds. Given that the PEMK I-D is > not a WG document at this time, I would be reluctant to consider any > further action from the PANA WG perspective. > > > > -Raj > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pana-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pana-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of ext Yoshihiro Ohba > > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 6:50 PM > > To: Jari Arkko > > Cc: pana@ietf.org; Patil Basavaraj (Nokia-D/Dallas) > > Subject: Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-ipsec > > > > There is a related document (i.e., draft-ohba-pana-pemk-02) that > defines PaC-EP Master Key (PEMK). PEMK is derived to be > cryptographically independent across multiple different types of lower > layers including IPsec. What should we do with pana-pemk draft? > > > > Yoshihiro Ohba > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:12:10PM +0300, Jari Arkko wrote: > > > >> My primary issue with this document was the lack of cycles, if there > >> had been no one interested in taking it to completion we should have > >> dropped it. Since you two are volunteering, can you work with the > >> chairs to take over the work, and do whatever is needed to bring the > >> document to a reasonable state? > >> > >> Jari > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pana mailing list > >> Pana@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pana > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Pana mailing list > > Pana@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pana > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pana mailing list > Pana@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pana
- [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-ipsec Basavaraj.Patil
- Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-i… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-i… Julien Bournelle
- Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-i… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-i… lionel.morand
- Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-i… Yoshihiro Ohba
- Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-i… Basavaraj.Patil
- Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-i… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-i… Glen Zorn
- Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-i… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-i… Alper Yegin
- Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-i… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-i… Joseph Salowey (jsalowey)
- Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-i… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-i… Alper Yegin
- [Pana] What to do with I-D: draft-ietf-pana-ipsec Basavaraj.Patil