[Pce] AD review of draft-ietf-pce-pceps-tls13-02

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From: John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>
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Hi Authors,

Thanks for this document. Looks good, I've requested IETF last call.

A couple of notes below, they didn't seem worth holding up the last call for, but please consider them for your next revision.
 
- "what PCEPS implementations do if a PCEPS supports more than one version". I don't think PCEPS (second occurrence) takes an article (i.e. referring to "a PCEPS" is weird). Some rewrite seems called for, perhaps s/a PCEPS/one/.

- "neither the PCC nor the PCE should establish a PCEPS with
   TLS connection with an unknown, unexpected, or incorrectly identified
   peer;"
   
Isn't "PCEPS with TLS" redundant, doesn't the ess in PCEPS imply TLS? In which case, just drop "with TLS". (See also, "ATM machine" :-)

Thanks,

—John