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Re: [Perc] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-perc-dtls-tunnel-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2021 15:00:18 -0400
From: "Paul E. Jones" <paulej@packetizer.com>
To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>, Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca>
CC: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>, Suhas Nandakumar <suhasietf@gmail.com>, perc@ietf.org, perc-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-perc-dtls-tunnel@ietf.org, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Perc] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-perc-dtls-tunnel-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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I have a draft prepared already. I'll publish it later today and wait for further input.

Paul


-------- Original Message --------
From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Sent: September 23, 2021 1:29:33 AM EDT
To: Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca>
Cc: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>, Paul Jones <paulej@packetizer.com>, Suhas Nandakumar <suhasietf@gmail.com>, perc@ietf.org, perc-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-perc-dtls-tunnel@ietf.org, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [Perc] Benjamin Kaduk's Discuss on draft-ietf-perc-dtls-tunnel-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 1:57 PM Cullen Jennings <fluffy@iii.ca> wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 5, 2021 at 6:17 PM Paul E. Jones <paulej=
> 40packetizer.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>
>> (2) I'll also mention here so that the IESG can talk about it during our
>> telechat (but with no intent to insist on a change): this document
>> specifies a versioned protocol and creates a registry. Are we happy
>> with the current Informational status, as opposed to Proposed Standard?
>> I do see that the topic was touched on in the shepherd writeup, but the
>> treatment there did not feel especially compelling to me.
>>
>>
>> Hopefully that got resolved.  I'll await instructions on any requested
>> changes here.
>>
>
> I'm not aware of a resolution.  I never got a reply after my message of
> July 1, where I suggested some possible paths by the working group.
>
> -MSK
>
>
> I’m having a hard time understanding the problem here. As far as I know
> there is no requirement for a document to be standards track to create an
> IANA registry - am I missing something? I was under the belief that a
> document does not even need to be part of the IETF stream for inclusion
> into IANA.
>
> I would rather see this document published than go back to WGLC.
>

I'll follow up with Ben and the others during the next IESG telechat (in
about nine hours).

In any event, it looks like Paul needs to post a new version before this
can go forward.

-MSK

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