Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making
Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com> Mon, 14 November 2005 13:41 UTC
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To: Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making
In-Reply-To: Message from Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com> of "Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:35:11 EST." <BF8D036F.3326%mshore@cisco.com>
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Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com> writes: > Could you describe what you mean by that? The reason I ask > is that what I'm seeing is that there really isn't a functioning > consensus process in the IETF in general, at least when it comes > to making decisions. IMO, this is an oversimplification. Yes, in some cases, the consensus process hasn't worked. We can all probably cite ecamples. But in other cases it does. But, (surprise surprise!!), building a consensus is a skill that some are much better at than others. It's also a skill that can be learned (at least to some degree). Seems like improving our consensus building culture by training chairs, editors, and participants is a concrete thing that could be done (e.g., by the EDU team) that would produce concrete results. Thomas _______________________________________________ Pesci-discuss mailing list Pesci-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pesci-discuss
- [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Melinda Shore
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Sam Hartman
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Melinda Shore
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Jari Arkko
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Sam Hartman
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Scott W Brim
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Sam Hartman
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Thomas Narten
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Melinda Shore