Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making

Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com> Mon, 14 November 2005 13:41 UTC

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To: Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making
In-Reply-To: Message from Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com> of "Tue, 01 Nov 2005 11:35:11 EST." <BF8D036F.3326%mshore@cisco.com>
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Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com> writes:

> Could you describe what you mean by that?  The reason I ask
> is that what I'm seeing is that there really isn't a functioning
> consensus process in the IETF in general, at least when it comes
> to making decisions.

IMO, this is an oversimplification. Yes, in some cases, the consensus
process hasn't worked. We can all probably cite ecamples.  But in
other cases it does. 

But, (surprise surprise!!), building a consensus is a skill that some
are much better at than others. It's also a skill that can be learned
(at least to some degree).

Seems like improving our consensus building culture by training
chairs, editors, and participants is a concrete thing that could be
done (e.g., by the EDU team) that would produce concrete results.

Thomas

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