Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] ECN not required (#2156)

Kazuho Oku <notifications@github.com> Mon, 17 December 2018 05:06 UTC

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IIRC what @mirjak says aligns to what I remember as the outcome of Kista.

I think it makes sense to encourage receivers to send back ACK frames with ECN counters, because without that, a sender cannot use ECN.

Whether a sender should use ECN is a different issue, and for that I prefer not having a recommendation.

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