Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Retransmit server initial upon second Initial (#3080)
ianswett <notifications@github.com> Tue, 11 February 2020 18:13 UTC
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ianswett commented on this pull request. Thanks Kazuho, I made some minor updates, but can make further ones if you think they're needed. > @@ -519,6 +519,26 @@ bytes. Initial packets and Handshake packets may never be acknowledged, but they are removed from bytes in flight when the Initial and Handshake keys are discarded. +### Speeding Handshake Completion + +When a server receives duplicate Initial CRYPTO data, it can assume the client +did not receive all Initial CRYPTO data or the client's estimated RTT is too +small. When a client receives Handshake packets prior to obtaining Handshake +keys it may assume some or all of the server's Initial packets were lost. True, suggestion taken. > @@ -519,6 +519,26 @@ bytes. Initial packets and Handshake packets may never be acknowledged, but they are removed from bytes in flight when the Initial and Handshake keys are discarded. +### Speeding Handshake Completion + +When a server receives duplicate Initial CRYPTO data, it can assume the client +did not receive all Initial CRYPTO data or the client's estimated RTT is too +small. When a client receives Handshake packets prior to obtaining Handshake +keys it may assume some or all of the server's Initial packets were lost. + +To speed handshake completion, either peer MAY send a packet containing +unacknowledged Initial CRYPTO data subject to the path validation limits, as +though the PTO expired. A client MAY send an ack-eliciting packet with no +CRYPTO data if all Initial data has been acknowledged. The PTO can only be +shortened once in this way. Subsequently, the PTO uses the normal calculation +with exponential backoff. Good question. It is aimed at the case when there are no RTT estimates, but I think there are a few cases like the one you're outlining where speeding up retransmission of the Initial2 data from a standard PTO is sensible, even if the server gets an ACK of Initial1. The PTO in this case is expected to be 3*RTT (SRTT + 4*RTTVar) vs 1*RTT if you follow this optimization. Given that, any suggestions on changes? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3080#pullrequestreview-356868389
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