Re: Draft response to Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 Requirements to IETF QUIC Working Group"

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From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
To: "lars@eggert.org" <lars@eggert.org>, "quic@ietf.org" <quic@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: Draft response to Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 Requirements to IETF QUIC Working Group"
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Hi Lars,

So I think your comment about discussion of abandoning Multi-path may have come
as a surprise to some people. Where has that discussion occurred? 

It wasn't on this mailing list what I can find. It doesn't like like an
exstensive discussion on the QUICDEV slack either, I did find 10 messages in
total. And that is not official WG resource either. I did find one github issue
that have some discussion. But larger issues like this really should be brought
to the WG mailing list. 

So I think before you do send a LS reply lets conclude on the now started
discussion here on the mailing list. 

Cheers

Magnus Westerlund



On Wed, 2020-09-30 at 10:12 +0300, Lars Eggert wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> FYI, below is a draft of our intended response to the Liaison Statement "LS on
> ATSSS Phase 2 Requirements to IETF QUIC Working Group" which we intend to send
> next week.
> 
> Please feel free to send comments.
> 
> Thanks,
> Lars, Lucas and Mark
> 
> --
> 
> Thank you for the update on your progress and your questions. Please find our
> responses below.
> 
> On Qn-1: The future of multipath support for QUIC is currently under active
> discussion in the IETF QUIC working group. While it was part of the original
> charter due to its inclusion in the pre-IETF "Google QUIC" protocol, several
> participants have argued during the last year that QUIC's connection migration
> support is sufficient for the majority of our use cases, and that full-blown
> support for multipath QUIC should consequently be abandoned as a WG
> deliverable.
> Other WG participants remain of the opinion that multipath support for QUIC is
> very important. Due to this active ongoing discussion, we do not have an
> estimate
> at this time whether WG drafts for multipath QUIC will be available in 1Q2021.
> 
> On Qn-2: The QUIC WG is chartered to provide an encrypted transport protocol.
> An option to disable encryption will hence not be standardized.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Mark Nottingham, Lucas Pardue and Lars Eggert, QUIC Working Group chairs
> 
-- 
Cheers

Magnus Westerlund 


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