Re: Draft response to Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 Requirements to IETF QUIC Working Group"
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Subject: Re: Draft response to Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 Requirements to IETF QUIC Working Group"
To: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>, QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>
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Lars, Lucas and Mark, > > FYI, below is a draft of our intended response to the Liaison Statement "LS on ATSSS Phase 2 Requirements to IETF QUIC Working Group" which we intend to send next week. > > Please feel free to send comments. > > Thanks, > Lars, Lucas and Mark > > -- > > Thank you for the update on your progress and your questions. Please find our > responses below. > > On Qn-1: The future of multipath support for QUIC is currently under active > discussion in the IETF QUIC working group. While it was part of the original > charter due to its inclusion in the pre-IETF "Google QUIC" protocol, several I'm very surprised by this sentence. It gives the impression that multipath was a feature of Google's proprietary QUIC protocol. My understanding based on the public documents that Google released and the source code is that multipath was considered by Google as they reserved one bit in the header to indicate multipath but that this was not fully implemented nor tested within Google QUIC. If Google had a specification of multipath QUIC, I'd be very interested in seeing this document. My understanding of the initial charter discussion was that multipath was a desired feature by many of the participants in the initial charter. > participants have argued during the last year that QUIC's connection migration > support is sufficient for the majority of our use cases, and that full-blown > support for multipath QUIC should consequently be abandoned as a WG deliverable. > Other WG participants remain of the opinion that multipath support for QUIC is > very important. Due to this active ongoing discussion, we do not have an estimate > at this time whether WG drafts for multipath QUIC will be available in 1Q2021. > > On Qn-2: The QUIC WG is chartered to provide an encrypted transport protocol. > An option to disable encryption will hence not be standardized. > > Kind regards, > Mark Nottingham, Lucas Pardue and Lars Eggert, QUIC Working Group chairs > Best regards, Olivier
- Draft response to Liaison Statement, "LS on ATSSS… Lars Eggert
- Re: Draft response to Liaison Statement, "LS on A… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: Draft response to Liaison Statement, "LS on A… Lars Eggert
- Re: Draft response to Liaison Statement, "LS on A… Olivier Bonaventure
- RE: Draft response to Liaison Statement, "LS on A… Flinck, Hannu (Nokia - FI/Espoo)
- Re: Draft response to Liaison Statement, "LS on A… Lars Eggert
- Re: Draft response to Liaison Statement, "LS on A… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Draft response to Liaison Statement, "LS on A… Ian Swett
- Re: Draft response to Liaison Statement, "LS on A… David Schinazi
- Re: Draft response to Liaison Statement, "LS on A… Mikkel Fahnøe Jørgensen
- Re: Draft response to Liaison Statement, "LS on A… Martin Thomson
- Re: Draft response to Liaison Statement, "LS on A… David Schinazi