Re: draft-ietf-quic-http-29, "1.1. Prior versions of HTTP"
Robin MARX <robin.marx@uhasselt.be> Fri, 12 June 2020 13:20 UTC
Return-Path: <robin.marx@uhasselt.be>
X-Original-To: quic@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: quic@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61A353A090F for <quic@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 12 Jun 2020 06:20:35 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.097
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_32=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=uhasselt.be
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lj1UB1dGVEkc for <quic@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 12 Jun 2020 06:20:33 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-wr1-x42c.google.com (mail-wr1-x42c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB4093A08D4 for <quic@ietf.org>; Fri, 12 Jun 2020 06:20:32 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-wr1-x42c.google.com with SMTP id e1so9730884wrt.5 for <quic@ietf.org>; Fri, 12 Jun 2020 06:20:32 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=uhasselt.be; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=SIrkYKEutV5rbE/CJZpQSDbBO3zjwi3c/Qf9bROdXCo=; b=qdV/7rpMakFSLuTk4QtaOZowY/UH+2OuE/9zCmXMsxpfm+TiEG9sSreQ0pPTk0PAON cw85OOmiw7Y7vSKnOT4n4xAqFdluF/CCG9zgxq6UfqG1x2hlGPnKhhjO+o7z4Bz7L7SO IK0uzjNUNc7QorApIykSraRG+92Sq8uqaDtOs=
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=SIrkYKEutV5rbE/CJZpQSDbBO3zjwi3c/Qf9bROdXCo=; b=cRKvpZgr1T4ulfkWBQHw8YIqe778ClzJjniK7LnUOsQ7xwbCbyzHK865xJ27cbW4by s+CHcS00Th2GE3lE8PNK9FUYVXi4kpUayEfpV+NhLRbtHcW2xiDVsqFAzjNuX+VjmNJI fb8jvcxvpWbfT1L7PpQJZfl3TrvxbAHNBP54Sv/bchplvWOjPt8HkYOw730ap7N68dr4 EyNMqiucpNhFOwvpMqKfNUnDLz15ng8MfFBpR9Twr2qeeav0lT2KWTlnUU3jfqW8keQS K3NebJmvlFGz3BfMdzVPhaE87ueXh5GFTAbjdbnROg0x+RzMA8cmX0eTFBp7plnf2RPA TCdw==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530D/liZ3PhbuRInUw+oXshvmyzbOk97u8H3o0Eprq+j/dNPY8Vz MbHV6D0PJaRXNkavc1t7ZPo3HIEG5uIqJQ3LkF1C9lmI
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxI3VllcuhtlTWF+WkA5WRFJUJyHHbheYSadfSSJDld4cJa6k2LkrPvcWwsZ6yDoZgazgYhGWuvXQvMmjBMyRU=
X-Received: by 2002:a5d:4dd0:: with SMTP id f16mr15902225wru.117.1591968031313; Fri, 12 Jun 2020 06:20:31 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <8c747b59-1672-4ccb-dfce-0914e74c504f@gmx.de>
In-Reply-To: <8c747b59-1672-4ccb-dfce-0914e74c504f@gmx.de>
From: Robin MARX <robin.marx@uhasselt.be>
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 15:20:19 +0200
Message-ID: <CAC7UV9bmX2Ta5dgazge1NQdpCW2UshVvy4fUD4pwF+=BNLW5Qw@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: draft-ietf-quic-http-29, "1.1. Prior versions of HTTP"
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
Cc: IETF QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000002cdc05a7e2f133"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/quic/x7inn0kwWzmBumeJTepYl67WoyY>
X-BeenThere: quic@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Main mailing list of the IETF QUIC working group <quic.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/quic>, <mailto:quic-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/quic/>
List-Post: <mailto:quic@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:quic-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/quic>, <mailto:quic-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2020 13:20:35 -0000
Hello Julian, To me, the crux is in the "at a time", which I feel makes the statement correct. Of course the nuances might not be clear for less experienced readers, but I don't feel the H3 text should explain the details of this. With best regards, Robin On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 13:49, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote: > > HTTP/1.1 [HTTP11] is a TCP mapping which uses whitespace-delimited text > fields to convey HTTP messages. While these exchanges are human-readable, > using whitespace for message formatting leads to parsing complexity and > motivates tolerance of variant behavior. Because each connection can > transfer only a single HTTP request or response at a time in each > direction, multiple parallel TCP connections are often used, reducing the > ability of the congestion controller to effectively manage traffic between > endpoints. > > Isn't that a bit misleading, as at least in theory HTTP/1.1 supports > pipelining? > > BEst regards, Julian > > -- Robin Marx PhD researcher - web performance Expertise centre for Digital Media T +32(0)11 26 84 79 - GSM +32(0)497 72 86 94 www.uhasselt.be Universiteit Hasselt - Campus Diepenbeek Agoralaan Gebouw D - B-3590 Diepenbeek Kantoor EDM-2.05
- draft-ietf-quic-http-29, "1.1. Prior versions of … Julian Reschke
- Re: draft-ietf-quic-http-29, "1.1. Prior versions… Robin MARX
- Re: draft-ietf-quic-http-29, "1.1. Prior versions… Julian Reschke
- RE: draft-ietf-quic-http-29, "1.1. Prior versions… Mike Bishop
- Re: draft-ietf-quic-http-29, "1.1. Prior versions… Paul Vixie
- Re: draft-ietf-quic-http-29, "1.1. Prior versions… Mark Nottingham
- Re: draft-ietf-quic-http-29, "1.1. Prior versions… Julian Reschke
- Re: draft-ietf-quic-http-29, "1.1. Prior versions… Roy T. Fielding
- Re: draft-ietf-quic-http-29, "1.1. Prior versions… Jana Iyengar