Re: [radext] Server identity and RFC7585bis (was: Review of draft-ietf-radext-radiusdtls)

Alan DeKok <aland@deployingradius.com> Thu, 11 April 2024 13:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: [radext] Server identity and RFC7585bis (was: Review of draft-ietf-radext-radiusdtls)
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On Apr 10, 2024, at 3:56 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
> You need to give the certificate SAN dNSName for the server, or you can't
> verify the certificate correctly.
> 
> I think that "same IP addr and port" is a bad test for same server, as one
> way to do multi-tenant would be to inspect the SNI and punt to different
> backend servers.

  I tend to agree here.  The server identity is the certificate (or DNSName in the cert).  The IP/port are pretty much irrelevant.

  I've added some comments to this effect in https://github.com/radext-wg/draft-ietf-radext-radiusdtls-bis/pull/1

  Alan DeKok.