Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM
Yogesh Deshpande <Yogesh.Deshpande@arm.com> Thu, 14 December 2023 11:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM
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Hi Hannes, To your question: I am wondering why the two documents <draft-ietf-rats-corim> and <draft-ietf-rats-concise-ta-stores> aren’t merged. The work on Cots started at different point in time (by different authors) and hence the CoRIM base document does refer Cots but is not fully integrated. We will discuss the possibility and implications of such in our regular CoRIM meetings. Regarding Trust Anchors as per RATS document (RFC 9334) to the best of my knowledge it comes under the heading of Endorsements. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9334#name-endorsements RATS treats Trust Anchors as a type of Endorsements. Hope this information is helpful. Regards, Yogesh From: RATS <rats-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Muhammad Usama Sardar Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2023 8:21 AM To: rats@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Hi Hannes, On 13.12.23 21:24, hannes.tschofenig=40gmx.net@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:hannes.tschofenig=40gmx.net@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: I am wondering why the two documents <draft-ietf-rats-corim> and <draft-ietf-rats-concise-ta-stores> aren’t merged. Reading through the RATS drafts I often get the impression that trust anchors have somehow been forgotten and were added later, as an afterthought. The RATS architecture RFC does not list trust anchors as an item in Figure 1. In some other document trust anchors are then portrait as belonging to reference values – somehow. That does not feel right to me either. I think it is completely wrong to consider trust anchors as Reference Values. Can you name the document which presents this view? Ciao Hannes Cheers, Usama IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
- [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM hannes.tschofenig
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Muhammad Usama Sardar
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Yogesh Deshpande
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM hannes.tschofenig
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Yogesh Deshpande
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Muhammad Usama Sardar
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Thomas Fossati
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Carl Wallace
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM hannes.tschofenig
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Henk Birkholz
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Michael Richardson
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Muhammad Usama Sardar
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Thomas Fossati
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Dionna Amalie Glaze
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Carl Wallace
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Muhammad Usama Sardar
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM hannes.tschofenig
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Carl Wallace
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Henk Birkholz
- [Rats] Meeting culture ... Re: CoTS and CoRIM Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Smith, Ned
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Muhammad Usama Sardar
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Muhammad Usama Sardar
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Muhammad Usama Sardar
- Re: [Rats] Meeting culture ... Re: CoTS and CoRIM Henk Birkholz
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Henk Birkholz
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Carl Wallace
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Carl Wallace
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Rats] CoTS and CoRIM Smith, Ned
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