Re: [Rats] Android comments on EAT draft

Simon Frost <Simon.Frost@arm.com> Mon, 08 July 2019 11:57 UTC

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From: Simon Frost <Simon.Frost@arm.com>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Shawn Willden <swillden@google.com>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>

> It's a good point, and maybe we can come up with a better term that is well
> understood.   The attestations are occuring in order that the network
> operator is willing to accept the device is sane.

"Associating Attestation" perhaps? That covers both the RP being a network operator accepting a device and the RP being the consumer of a service which is hosted on a device. In both cases the attestation request is a necessary part of building the trust to form the partnership.

Thanks
Simon

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