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Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org> Tue, 20 September 2022 21:43 UTC

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From: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, "rats@ietf.org" <rats@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Rats] IPR check for draft-ietf-rats-architecture
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Subject: Re: [Rats] IPR check for draft-ietf-rats-architecture
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Hi Michael!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: RATS <rats-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Michael Richardson
> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 1:41 PM
> To: Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org>; rats@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Rats] IPR check for draft-ietf-rats-architecture
> 
> 
> Roman Danyliw <rdd@cert.org> wrote:
>     > draft-ietf-rats-architecture was reviewed by the IESG at the September
>     > 9 telechat.  Based on this IESG evaluation, the document was advanced
>     > to the "Approved-announcement to be sent::Revised I-D Needed" state --
>     > the document is approved for publication, but I'm requesting that the
>     > authors review the IESG COMMENTs and publish a revision.
> 
> Yes, we opened issues for all the COMMENTS, and we are working on revisions.

Thanks!
 
>     > Since this document left the WG and went through IESG evaluation,
>     > another set of IPR claims against this document have been reported (on
>     > September 16).  See:
> 
>     > -- https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/5812/
>     > -- https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/5811/
> 
>     > Note, these are different that the two IPR claims we previously
>     > discussed
>     >
> (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rats/3nCTOkNYW8ydEo0zHZlQoY8F92A/
> ).
> 
>     > Since this document is now sitting with me for advancement, I am
>     > consulting the WG if there are any objections to publishing this
>     > document (once another revision is published) given this new IPR
>     > information.  Please respond to the list by Wednesday, September 28,
>     > 2022.
> 
> I think that the new IPR claim is nonsense, and should be sent back to the
> submitter for clarification.  I didn't find a related patent, and they did not even
> disclose which section of the document infringes.
> Or maybe I just don't know how to read the disclosure.

As a process check, in this call as in the one during WGLC (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rats/3nCTOkNYW8ydEo0zHZlQoY8F92A/), we want to chart a path for how to proceed with the document, not evaluate the merits of the IPR claim.

Roman

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