Re: [regext] Eric Rescorla's Discuss on draft-ietf-regext-org-11: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

[Eric Rescorla <[e-mail]>]

OK, so I think the key point here is that either "clientUpdateProhibites"
or "serverUpdateProhibited" will stop both sides from doing updates.

So I think what I would say is somewhere:
Note that if clientUpdateProhibited is set, the client will not be able to
update the object. It will first need to remove that field prior to
attempting to update the object.

Would that work?
-Ekr




On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 3:39 AM Gould, James <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Benjamin,
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> This seems overly zealous to the point of being harmful.  For example, if a
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> server sets the status to "ok", a client cannot replace it by
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> clientLinkProhibited?
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> The “ok” status is the default status and not classified as a server
> status, since it is not prefixed with “server”.  The sentence “A client
> MUST NOT alter status values set by the server.” means that the client
> cannot set or remove a server status, such as serverUpdateProhibited.  I
> hope this clarifies what is defined in the EPP RFCs (5730-5733) and
> draft-ietf-regext-org.
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> Thanks,
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> JG
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> On 10/31/18, 10:23 AM, "Benjamin Kaduk" <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>     Trimming to just one potentially problematic suggestion...
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>     On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:25:42AM +0800, Linlin Zhou wrote:
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>     > Linlin Zhou
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>     > DISCUSS:
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>     [...]
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>     > [Linlin] Our proposal is to add the lead-in bolded text to match the
> existing EPP RFC's to the Organization mapping. There has been no issues
> with the interpretation of the statuses with the EPP RFCs, so it's best to
> match them as closely as possible. In section 3.4,
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>     [bold does not work super-well in text/plain mail, but
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>     https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/regext/current/msg01912.html
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>     it]
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>     > An organization object MUST always have at least one associated
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>     > value. Status values can be set only by the client that sponsors an
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>     > organization object and by the server on which the object resides. A
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>     > client can change the status of an organization object using the EPP
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>     > <update> command. Each status value MAY be accompanied by a string
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>     > of human-readable text that describes the rationale for the status
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>     > applied to the object.
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>     > A client MUST NOT alter status values set by the server. A server
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>     This seems overly zealous to the point of being harmful.  For example,
> if a
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>     server sets the status to "ok", a client cannot replace it by
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>     clientLinkProhibited?
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>     -Benjamin
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>     > MAY alter or override status values set by a client, subject to
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>     > server policies. The status of an object MAY change as a result of
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>     > either a client-initiated transform command or an action performed
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>     > a server operator.
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>     > Status values that can be added or removed by a client are prefixed
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>     > with "client". Corresponding status values that can be added or
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>     > removed by a server are prefixed with "server". The "hold" and
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>     > "terminated" status values are server-managed when the organization
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>     > has no parent identifier [Section 3.6] and otherwise MAY be client-
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>     > managed based on server policy. Status values that
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>     > do not begin with either "client" or "server" are server-managed.
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>     > Take "clientUpdateProhibited" for example.
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>     > If status value "clientUpdateProhibited" is set by a client
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>     > then <update> command is not allowed to perform by a client
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>     > If status value "clientUpdateProhibited" is removed by a client or a
> server
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>     > then no limitation of performing EPP commands
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