Re: [regext] Using RDAP as a Domain Availability Service

Jonas Brømsø Nielsen <jonasbn@dk-hostmaster.dk> Fri, 16 December 2016 11:56 UTC

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From: Jonas Brømsø Nielsen <jonasbn@dk-hostmaster.dk>
To: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com>
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Subject: Re: [regext] Using RDAP as a Domain Availability Service
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Hello,

I do not see why RDAP should not be taken into consideration for this?

We have implemented a DAS service by request from registrars since this was pointed out to us as a de facto standard.

The service is implemented as a basic proprietary RESTful interface (https://github.com/DK-Hostmaster/das-service-specification <https://github.com/DK-Hostmaster/das-service-specification>).

The results rendered here are just the same as would be reflected if your would inquire via EPP, WHOIS or any other service we offer, the only variations are the amounts of data and the protocols.

IMHO a RDAP implementation of this would be most welcome so registrars could use a standardised protocol instead of variations like the one we implemented.

jonasbn

> On 16 Dec 2016, at 12:40, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, but why would RDAP be used for this?
> 
> I know that whois is used by a lot of people for this, but it really shouldn’t be. Only a direct EPP query to the registry can give a “sane” response.
> 
> What am I missing?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Michele
> 
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> On 16/12/2016, 11:34, "regext on behalf of Andrew Newton" <regext-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of andy@hxr.us> wrote:
> 
>    This topic keeps appearing over and over again, so Marcos and I
>    decided to address it.
>    As it turns out, there's not much needed to achieve this. This draft
>    suggests two new query parameters and re-uses the current RDAP domain
>    query. In other words, its a very small addition to RDAP.
> 
>    -andy
> 
> 
>    A new version of I-D, draft-newton-regext-rdap-domain-availability-00.txt
>    has been successfully submitted by Andrew Lee Newton and posted to the
>    IETF repository.
> 
>    Name: draft-newton-regext-rdap-domain-availability
>    Revision: 00
>    Title: Using RDAP as a Domain Availability Service
>    Document date: 2016-12-16
>    Group: Individual Submission
>    Pages: 6
>    URL:
>    https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-newton-regext-rdap-domain-availability-00.txt
>    Status:
>    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-newton-regext-rdap-domain-availability/
>    Htmlized:
>    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-newton-regext-rdap-domain-availability-00
> 
> 
>    Abstract:
>      This document describes a minimal profile of RDAP which can be used
>      to check the availability of domain names available for registration.
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Med venlig hilsen,

Jonas B. Nielsen
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