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Re: [regext] "Considerations" Sections

"Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> Tue, 06 November 2018 08:59 UTC

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From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Niels ten Oever <lists@digitaldissidents.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 3:36 AM
> To: Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck@verisign.com>; 'regext@ietf.org'
> <regext@ietf.org>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] "Considerations" Sections
>
>
>
> On 11/6/18 9:22 AM, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: regext <regext-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Niels ten Oever
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 3:07 AM
> >> To: regext@ietf.org
> >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] "Considerations" Sections
> >>
> >> On 11/06/2018 09:01 AM, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote:
> >>> Following up on the in-room discussion regarding Human Rights
> >>> Protocol
> >> Considerations as compared to Security Considerations and other types
> >> of considerations that appear in IETF documents:
> >>>
> >>> I mentioned at the mic that we don't have any documents representing
> >> IETF consensus that provide guidance for writing human rights
> >> protocol considerations. It was mentioned that RFC 8280 describes such
> guidelines.
> >> True, it does, but it's an Informational document that "represents
> >> the consensus of the Human Rights Protocol Considerations Research
> >> Group of the Internet Research Task Force". RFCs 3552 (Security
> >> Considerations) and
> >> 8126 (IANA Considerations) are, in comparison, IETF BCPs. So, I'll
> >> stand by my comment regarding the lack of _IETF_ consensus on the
> topic.
> >>
> >> Thanks Scott, as you know there are also Privacy Considerations, as
> >> outlined in RFC6973, which also do not constitute community consensus
> >> but are widely used.
> >>
> >> Furthermore, if something is not a community consensus, it doesn't
> >> mean we MAY/SHOULD/MUST NOT do it.
> >
> > True. It also does not mean that we MUST do it. As Jim Galvin noted,
> it's up to the editor and WG to decide how to address the topic.
> >
>
> My understanding is that at the point of WG adoption, change control is
> handed over to the WG, right? So in that case it means that it is up to
> the WG.

The editor controls the pen. It's the responsibility of the editor to ensure that the text that appears in the document ultimately represents WG consensus.

Scott

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