Re: [Widex] Working group last call (WGLC) for Requirements: draft-ietf-widex-requirements-01.txt
"Jin Yu" <jyu@openxup.org> Thu, 11 May 2006 00:04 UTC
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From: Jin Yu <jyu@openxup.org>
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Subject: Re: [Widex] Working group last call (WGLC) for Requirements: draft-ietf-widex-requirements-01.txt
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 17:04:00 -0700
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Hi all, I have a few comments about the requirements draft, mostly based on my experience in working on XUP and X11. * Event Selection In a networked UI environment, efficient event delivery is as important as updating the UI itself. The requirements document already discussed that certain events can be handled locally at the renderer (e.g. a mouse click on a menu bar will display a submenu) and therefore there is no need to send those events to the server. However, in addition to that, it is very important that the renderer only sends events that are *interested* by the application logic on the server side. For example, typing in a text field generates a key press event for each key stroke. But the application may not care about each key stoke; it only wants to receive the entire text when the user clicks on a button labeled "submit". In this case, the application is interested in the mouse click event on the "submit" button, but not interested in the key press events in the text field. So what's needed is an event selection mechanism, and I believe this is needed at the protocol level, not at the XML UI language level. That is, this event selection mechanism should be independent of the actual UI language in use. I think we could define a new type of message - widex event selection object. This is a one directional message that goes from the server to the renderer, allowing the application to instruct the renderer to send only selected events. The widex event selection object would specify the type of event as well as the UI component that fired the event. And the event type would be a namespace-qualified event from any concrete XML UI languages (not limited by DOM events; it could come from XUL, XAML, etc.) Note that the new event selection object would be very different from WO.Event. The event selection object specifies the event delivery criteria; whereas WO.Event specifies the actual event fired, with timestamp, etc. Similar design can be found in XUP, where it has the notion of "event selectors" (<http://www.openxup.org/TR/xup/#elem_selector>). In addition, X11 also allows the selection of events, via the library function XSelectInput(). * UI State Synchronization The diagram at the beginning of section 2 shows the UI update interface as one way messages from the server to the renderer. However, for the UI state to be synchronized, the renderer should also send UI update messages to the server. The server-side UI state is manipulated by application code (e.g. create a new window, change background color of a label, etc.); this results server to renderer UI updates messages. On the other hand, the renderer's UI state is manipulated by the end user. For example, when the user is typing text in a text field, the UI state of that field is getting changed. This change needs to be synchronized to the server. Other examples include resizing a window, checking a check box, etc. Note that the synchronization needs not to be immediate, as the application may just care about the entire text input, not each key stoke. But how and when to synchronize should be left to the application to decide. Again, this could be done by using the widex event selection object proposed above. Regards, Jin ________________________________________ Jin Yu OpenXUP.org _______________________________________________ Widex mailing list Widex@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/widex
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- Re: [Widex] Working group last call (WGLC) for Re… Dave Raggett
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- RE: [Widex] Working group last call (WGLC) for Re… Vlad.Stirbu
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