Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56, #57, #61, #62
Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> Mon, 05 July 2021 09:37 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56, #57, #61, #62
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On 05.07.21 04:24, Martin Thomson wrote: > On Thu, Jul 1, 2021, at 02:15, Michael StJohns wrote: >> On 6/30/2021 2:18 AM, Eliot Lear wrote: >>> The RSWG establishes policy, with input from the community, the RSAB, >>> and the RSEA. >> s/establishes/proposes/ please. > I respectfully disagree. The goal of this process is to seat the authority in the community, which means RSWG establishes policy. The purpose of the RSAB being only to ensure that the outcome is not unreasonable. Again, we're not relitigating the roles here. This is just a matter of establishing the relationships relating to RPC. Don't worry about word smithing at this point. I didn't intend that text to go into the draft verbatim, but to be the basis of our understanding of those relationships so that text could be written. > > I find the "with input from the community" a bit odd in Eliot's phrasing. The goal is to - to the extent possible - have RSWG == community, with the usual caveat that it is more like RSWG \self-selected-subset-of community. Actually so did I, in retrospect, for the precise reasons you state. Eliot
- [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56, #57… Jay Daley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Jay Daley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Jay Daley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Jay Daley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Jay Daley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Jay Daley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Jay Daley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Jay Daley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Jay Daley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Jay Daley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Jay Daley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Jay Daley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Jay Daley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Jay Daley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Jay Daley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Michael StJohns
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… IETF Executive Director
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Suggested text for issues #56,… Martin J. Dürst