Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 151: Consultation / Approval for RSCE Selection committee

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Mon, 10 January 2022 20:27 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 12:26:42 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 151: Consultation / Approval for RSCE Selection committee
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This seems fine to me.

-Ekr


On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 12:23 PM Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> wrote:

> I'm beginning to see a rough consensus here.  Are there other views?
>
> Eliot
>
> On 10.01.22 20:59, Russ Housley wrote:
> > I agree with the suggest that Brian made about consulting with the four
> stream managers.  It does not need to be a prolonged consultation.
> >
> > Russ
> >
> >> On Jan 8, 2022, at 3:44 AM, Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I've opened a separate issue on the discussion that John Klensin
> initiated regarding how the selection committee has formed.  At this time,
> I would like to ask if others believe that there is a concern.  If not, we
> will not make any changes.
> >>
> >> To review, John has proposed that the RSAB be consulted once the ED has
> a proposed search committee.  I suggested that the consultation could occur
> earlier.  Jay pointed out that any such change would delay hiring of the
> RSCE and didn't think the change was necessary, as he is consulting this
> group.
> >>
> >> One way forward might be that we put together a proposal in the RSWG to
> address this point, so that we can get on with the hiring.  That would of
> course require rough consensus and approval.
> >>
> >> Another way forward might be that the text doesn't become operative
> until after the RSWG and RSAB are formed.
> >>
> >> There may be other ways forward.  Please indicate your preference.
> >>
> >> Eliot
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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