Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 151: Consultation / Approval for RSCE Selection committee

Proposed text for Section 5.1...

OLD

    The IETF LLC will form a selection committee, including members from
    the community, that will be responsible for making a recommendation
    to the IETF LLC for the RSCE role.  The selection committee will take
    into account the definition of the role as well as any other
    information that the committee deems necessary or helpful in making
    its decision.  The IETF LLC is responsible for contracting or
    employment of the RSCE.

NEW

    Responsibility for making a recommendation to the IETF LLC regarding
    the RSCE role will lie with a selection committee.  The IETF LLC will
    propose an initial slate of members for this committee, making sure
    to include members from the community, and consult with the stream
    representatives regarding the final membership of the committee.  In
    making its recommendation for the role of RSCE, the selection
    committee will take into account the definition of the role as well
    as any other information that the committee deems necessary or
    helpful in making its decision.  The IETF LLC is responsible for
    contracting or employment of the RSCE.

On 1/10/22 6:36 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> +1
> 
> On 1/10/22 1:26 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>> This seems fine to me.
>>
>> -Ekr
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 12:23 PM Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch 
>> <mailto:lear@lear.ch>> wrote:
>>
>>     I'm beginning to see a rough consensus here.  Are there other views?
>>
>>     Eliot
>>
>>     On 10.01.22 20:59, Russ Housley wrote:
>>      > I agree with the suggest that Brian made about consulting with
>>     the four stream managers.  It does not need to be a prolonged
>>     consultation.
>>      >
>>      > Russ
>>      >
>>      >> On Jan 8, 2022, at 3:44 AM, Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch
>>     <mailto:lear@lear.ch>> wrote:
>>      >>
>>      >> Hi,
>>      >>
>>      >> I've opened a separate issue on the discussion that John Klensin
>>     initiated regarding how the selection committee has formed.  At this
>>     time, I would like to ask if others believe that there is a
>>     concern.  If not, we will not make any changes.
>>      >>
>>      >> To review, John has proposed that the RSAB be consulted once the
>>     ED has a proposed search committee.  I suggested that the
>>     consultation could occur earlier.  Jay pointed out that any such
>>     change would delay hiring of the RSCE and didn't think the change
>>     was necessary, as he is consulting this group.
>>      >>
>>      >> One way forward might be that we put together a proposal in the
>>     RSWG to address this point, so that we can get on with the hiring. 
>>     That would of course require rough consensus and approval.
>>      >>
>>      >> Another way forward might be that the text doesn't become
>>     operative until after the RSWG and RSAB are formed.
>>      >>
>>      >> There may be other ways forward.  Please indicate your 
>> preference.
>>      >>
>>      >> Eliot
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >>
>>      >
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