Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 151: Consultation / Approval for RSCE Selection committee

Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> Mon, 10 January 2022 20:23 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 151: Consultation / Approval for RSCE Selection committee
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I'm beginning to see a rough consensus here.  Are there other views?

Eliot

On 10.01.22 20:59, Russ Housley wrote:
> I agree with the suggest that Brian made about consulting with the four stream managers.  It does not need to be a prolonged consultation.
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> Russ
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>> On Jan 8, 2022, at 3:44 AM, Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> wrote:
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>> Hi,
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>> I've opened a separate issue on the discussion that John Klensin initiated regarding how the selection committee has formed.  At this time, I would like to ask if others believe that there is a concern.  If not, we will not make any changes.
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>> To review, John has proposed that the RSAB be consulted once the ED has a proposed search committee.  I suggested that the consultation could occur earlier.  Jay pointed out that any such change would delay hiring of the RSCE and didn't think the change was necessary, as he is consulting this group.
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>> One way forward might be that we put together a proposal in the RSWG to address this point, so that we can get on with the hiring.  That would of course require rough consensus and approval.
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>> Another way forward might be that the text doesn't become operative until after the RSWG and RSAB are formed.
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>> There may be other ways forward.  Please indicate your preference.
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>> Eliot
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