Re: [Rfced-future] Issue 151: Consultation / Approval for RSCE Selection committee

[Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>]

wfm, but I'd like to hear Jay's opinion.

Regards
    Brian

On 11-Jan-22 14:46, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Proposed text for Section 5.1...
> 
> OLD
> 
>      The IETF LLC will form a selection committee, including members from
>      the community, that will be responsible for making a recommendation
>      to the IETF LLC for the RSCE role.  The selection committee will take
>      into account the definition of the role as well as any other
>      information that the committee deems necessary or helpful in making
>      its decision.  The IETF LLC is responsible for contracting or
>      employment of the RSCE.
> 
> NEW
> 
>      Responsibility for making a recommendation to the IETF LLC regarding
>      the RSCE role will lie with a selection committee.  The IETF LLC will
>      propose an initial slate of members for this committee, making sure
>      to include members from the community, and consult with the stream
>      representatives regarding the final membership of the committee.  In
>      making its recommendation for the role of RSCE, the selection
>      committee will take into account the definition of the role as well
>      as any other information that the committee deems necessary or
>      helpful in making its decision.  The IETF LLC is responsible for
>      contracting or employment of the RSCE.
> 
> On 1/10/22 6:36 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> +1
>>
>> On 1/10/22 1:26 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>>> This seems fine to me.
>>>
>>> -Ekr
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 12:23 PM Eliot Lear <[e-mail]
>>> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>      I'm beginning to see a rough consensus here.  
Are there other views?
>>>
>>>      Eliot
>>>
>>>      On 10.01.22 20:59, Russ Housley wrote:
>>>       > I agree with the suggest that Brian made about consulting with
>>>      the four stream managers.  It does not need to be a prolonged
>>>      consultation.
>>>       >
>>>       > Russ
>>>       >
>>>       >> On Jan 8, 2022, at 3:44 AM, Eliot Lear <[e-mail]
>>>      <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>>       >>
>>>       >> Hi,
>>>       >>
>>>       >> I've opened a separate issue on the discussion that John Klensin
>>>      initiated regarding how the selection committee has formed.  At this
>>>      time, I would like to ask if others believe that there is a
>>>      concern.  If not, we will not make any changes.
>>>       >>
>>>       >> To review, John has proposed that the RSAB be consulted once the
>>>      ED has a proposed search committee.  I suggested that the
>>>      consultation could occur earlier.  Jay pointed out that any such
>>>      change would delay hiring of the RSCE and didn't think the change
>>>      was necessary, as he is consulting this group.
>>>       >>
>>>       >> One way forward might be that we put together a proposal in the
>>>      RSWG to address this point, so that we can get on 
with the hiring.
>>>      That would of course require rough consensus and approval.
>>>       >>
>>>       >> Another way forward might be that the text doesn't become
>>>      operative until after the RSWG and RSAB are formed.
>>>       >>
>>>       >> There may be other ways forward.  Please indicate your
>>> preference.
>>>       >>
>>>       >> Eliot
>>>       >>
>>>       >>
>>>       >>
>>>       >
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