Re: [rmcat] Wireless test cases

Ingemar Johansson S <ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com> Sat, 27 February 2016 09:02 UTC

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From: Ingemar Johansson S <ingemar.s.johansson@ericsson.com>
To: Mirja Kühlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch>
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Hi

For what it´s worth.
I will run the LTE test cases and the basic test cases with SCReAM in our proprietary  system simulator. I will possibly also run some WiFi testcase in our simulator.
I will not run in NS3 however, simple reason is that I don't have time to delve into that platform.

/Ingemar

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mirja Kühlewind [mailto:mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch]
> Sent: den 26 februari 2016 18:11
> To: Xiaoqing Zhu (xiaoqzhu)
> Cc: rmcat WG (rmcat@ietf.org); Zaheduzzaman Sarker; Stefan Holmer; Anna
> Brunström
> Subject: Re: [rmcat] Wireless test cases
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> thanks for you feedback.
> 
> This brings me back to my original question: Would the working group require
> to see evaluation results to the mobile and wireless test cases before moving
> to publication for experimental or are the basic test cases (in draft-ietf-
> rmcat-eval-test-02) sufficient to move on and classify the candidates to be
> safe for experimentation in the Internet?
> 
> Mirja
> 
> 
> > Am 26.02.2016 um 17:50 schrieb Xiaoqing Zhu (xiaoqzhu)
> <xiaoqzhu@cisco.com>:
> >
> > ​I will look into sharing the NS3 code/script for WiFi tests.
> >
> > As for LTE test cases:  it's good to know that it can be done.  But, since there
> is no precedence to follow, this may take substantial time and effort. So we
> may not get around to tackle that soon.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Xiaoqing
> >
> > From: Stefan Holmer <stefan@webrtc.org>
> > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 12:55 AM
> > To: Zaheduzzaman Sarker; Xiaoqing Zhu (xiaoqzhu); Mirja Kühlewind
> > Cc: rmcat WG (rmcat@ietf.org); Anna Brunström
> > Subject: Re: [rmcat] Wireless test cases
> >
> > As a first step we'll probably look into at least some of the wifi test cases,
> but I don't know how soon we can have those done. Our current focus is on
> improving the loss-based part of GCC, and after that we can focus on further
> tests.
> >
> > If it's reasonably simple to run lte tests then it sounds good to run some of
> those too. If we can share code to set up NS3 for wifi and lte tests, that
> would be great.
> >
> > /Stefan
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 8:51 AM Zaheduzzaman Sarker
> <zaheduzzaman.sarker@ericsson.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > We didn't used NS-3 simulator to evaluation SCReAM over LTE, we used
> our proprietary simulator.
> > However, I have looked into the NS-3 simulator and talked with the LTE
> module implementer of NS-3 (LUNA). My conclusion is, the draft can be
> realized in the NS-3 simulator.
> >
> > BR
> >
> > Zahed
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Xiaoqing Zhu (xiaoqzhu) [mailto:xiaoqzhu@cisco.com]
> > > Sent: den 25 februari 2016 18:43
> > > To: Zaheduzzaman Sarker; Mirja Kühlewind
> > > Cc: rmcat WG (rmcat@ietf.org); Anna Brunström
> > > Subject: Re: [rmcat] Wireless test cases
> > >
> > > Thanks for the pointer, Zahed.  That's a good place to start.  Would
> > > it be possible for you to share your NS-3 code/script for testing SCReAM
> over LTE?
> > >
> > > BTW, you may want to update the corresponding link in the
> > > wireless-test-case document. Currently, the reference on
> > > [LTE-simulator] points to the NS-3 manual.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Xiaoqing
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: Zaheduzzaman Sarker <zaheduzzaman.sarker@ericsson.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 11:45 PM
> > > To: Mirja Kühlewind; Xiaoqing Zhu (xiaoqzhu)
> > > Cc: rmcat WG (rmcat@ietf.org); Anna Brunström
> > > Subject: Re: [rmcat] Wireless test cases
> > >
> > > Yes,
> > >
> > > NS-3 has necessary modules to run LTE simulations.
> > >
> > > https://www.nsnam.org/docs/models/html/lte.html
> > >
> > > BR
> > >
> > > Zahed
> > >
> > > On 02/24/2016 06:02 PM, Mirja Kühlewind wrote:
> > > > Hi Xiaoqing,
> > > >
> > > >> Am 24.02.2016 um 17:50 schrieb Xiaoqing Zhu (xiaoqzhu)
> > > <xiaoqzhu@cisco.com>:
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Mirja, all,
> > > >>
> > > >> Zahed and I have indeed discussed about this in Yokohama. Maybe I
> > > >> did not
> > > make it clear in my previous email, trying again.
> > > >>
> > > >> Basically, to carry out tests in Sec 3 (Cellular Network Specific
> > > >> Test Cases),
> > > one needs to run it over a module that simulates packet behavior
> > > over cellular links -- just like for the Wi-Fi portion of the test
> > > cases, we relied on the Wi-Fi module in NS3 simulators to do so.
> > > >>
> > > >> What is missing is the cellular network simulator, preferably as
> > > >> a plug-in
> > > module for NS3, over which we can run rate adaptation tests.
> > > > I though that this is available in the mean time.
> > > >
> > > > Zahed, do you have link or is this already included in the latest
> > > > version of ns-
> > > 3?
> > > >
> > > > Mirja
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Xiaoqing
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ________________________________________
> > > >> From: Mirja Kühlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch>
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 3:33 AM
> > > >> To: Xiaoqing Zhu (xiaoqzhu); rmcat WG (rmcat@ietf.org)
> > > >> Cc: Anna Brunström; Zaheduzzaman Sarker
> > > >> Subject: Re: [rmcat] Wireless test cases
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Xiaoqing,
> > > >>
> > > >> On 19.02.2016 21:27, Xiaoqing Zhu (xiaoqzhu) wrote:
> > > >>> As for Sec. 3 on Cellular Network Specific Test Cases, would
> > > >>> appreciate more detailed information on how to set those up, or
> > > >>> relevant pointers/code on cellular network simulators.
> > > >> Can you let us/Zahed know what exactly you need/is missing?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Mirja
> > >
> >
>