Re: [Roll] Draft Agenda

Sorry, missing a few key words in the last paragraph.

MRC> If it's not controversial, then we don't need to discuss it.
Since KEMP has not got positive or negative feedback, it seems likes not
controversial :) Then, is it time for chairs to raise a consensus call? ;)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: QIU Ying [mailto:qiuying@i2r.a-star.edu.sg]
> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 3:46 PM
> To: 'Philip Levis'; 'Michael Richardson'
> Cc: 'JeongGil Ko'; 'roll@ietf.org WG'
> Subject: RE: [Roll] Draft Agenda
> 
> I support Michael's priority order. But according to the current agenda,
> we remain almost half time space for nothing.
> 
> Also agree Philip's point that "the goal of the presentation is to
> clearly state the points for discussion". For example, without Tero
> presentation on in last Vancouver meeting, which topic was not
> discussed in mail list before the meeting, we might not pay much
> attention on the progress of IEEE 802.15.9. Tero's slides give a good
> discussion point if the ROLL documents should be compatible with IEEE
> 802.15.9. Hence, the update of KEMP is the produce of the consideration.
> 
> In personally, I do not like this KMP Information Element format
> designed by IEEE 802.15.9 WG. In LLNs, we struggle every bit in
> transmission, but the KMP format too complicated with many chian
> information in order to flexible. It's the discussion point I would
> like to bring to discuss in WG meeting.
> 
> MRC> If it's not, then we don't need to discuss it.
> Since KEMP has not got positive or negative feedback, it seems likes
> controversial :) So, is it time for chairs to raise a consensus call? ;)
> 
> Regards
> Qiu Ying
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: roll-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:roll-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
> > Of Philip Levis
> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 7:17 AM
> > To: Michael Richardson
> > Cc: JeongGil Ko; roll@ietf.org WG
> > Subject: Re: [Roll] Draft Agenda
> >
> > On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Please be aware that among JP and I, I'm the one pushing loudest to
> > > restrict our meeting slot time to (in order of priority):
> > >
> > > 1) things in our charter.
> > > 2) things with activity on the mailing list.
> > > 3) things with reproduceable problem statements that might need
> > >   to go into the charter.
> > >
> > > You may have noticed how incredibly full the IETF meetings are.
> > >
> > > The Area Directors have been pushing very hard on the WG chairs to
> > > make sure that we understand that the IETF sessions are *not* for
> > > presentations, but for discussion.
> >
> > This makes a lot of sense -- the goal of the presentation is to
> > clearly state the points for discussion. That being said, it does
> seem
> > a little weird that drafts which haven't been mentioned on the
> mailing
> > list are going to be discussed.
> >
> > > So, again: If there is work that you think has relevance to the
> ROLL
> > > WG, then please bring it up on the list.
> > > If it's not controversial, then we don't need to discuss it.
> > >
> > > If it's very controversial, then we need to pin down the set of
> > > concerns we have with it, so that, next week, when are together, we
> > > can focus on the actual issues.  We aren't there to watch
> powerpoints.
> >
> > Whether RPL should support mixed mode operation seems pretty
> > controversial to me.
> >
> > Phil
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