Re: [Roll] Draft Agenda

I find myself in perfect agreement with Phil here.

Note that I neither agree nor disagree with either if the two I-Ds, but I do think that Phil is right: it's incorrect to say that draft-ko-roll-mix-network-pathology is not to be discussed for the reason of "no traction on the mailing list".

Best,

Thomas

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On 30 oct. 2012, at 16:19, Philip Levis <pal@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:

> I'm a little worried that the one draft which is based on a real, documented problem encountered in a deployment is considered to have "no traction on the mailing list", despite several discussions, while "Industrial Deterministic Routing Extension for Low-Power and Lossy Networks," which I have never seen mentioned on the mailing list (can someone point out that I'm wrong) does have a slot. This doesn't mean that the other draft shouldn't have a slot; I just don't understand the process by which slots are being decided.
> 
> Phil
> 
> On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:44 PM, JP Vasseur (jvasseur) wrote:
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> Many Thanks for your email - we did discuss about it but there pretty much no traction on the mailing list on this item.
>> Please continue to use the mailing at will. This is why the item is not part of the agenda indeed.
>> 
>> Many Thanks.
>> 
>> JP and Michael.
>> 
>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 3:14 AM, JeongGil Ko wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear WG Chairs,
>>> 
>>> For some reason... this email seems to be ignored… any responses? 
>>> 
>>> -John
>>> 
>>> ------
>>> JeongGil Ko, Ph.D.
>>> Researcher
>>> Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute (ETRI)
>>> http://sites.google.com/site/jeonggilko/
>>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2012, at 9:39 PM, 정종수 <jsjeong@etri.re.kr> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> JP,
>>>> 
>>>> John has requested a slot. But we've not been replied anything. Is the agenda already fixed?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> -Jongsoo
>>>> 
>>>> 2012. 10. 25., 오전 6:41, JeongGil Ko <jeonggil.ko@etri.re.kr> 작성:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> JP,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've also put in a request for a slot at the meeting in Atlanta for presenting "draft-ko-roll-mix-network-pathology" but I do not see this on the agenda. This draft discusses about a critical and practical performance issue of RPL networks (both collection and downwards) when they are intentionally or accidentally deployed with devices of different MOPs. I believe that such an issue is important to discuss as a group.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -John
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------
>>>>> JeongGil Ko, Ph.D.
>>>>> Researcher
>>>>> Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institute (ETRI)
>>>>> http://sites.google.com/site/jeonggilko/
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 25, 2012, at 3:06 AM, JP Vasseur (jvasseur) wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> please find bellow the draft agenda for ROLL's WG meeting in Atlanta - let us know if you have any comment:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1) Agenda/admin (Chairs - 5mn) [5]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2) WG Status (Chairs - 10 mn) [15]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 3) Security Framework and Applicability Statement template
>>>>>> (Michael - 10m) [25]
>>>>>> draft=draft-richardson-roll-applicability-template-00
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 4) RPL applicability in industrial networks
>>>>>> draft-phinney-roll-rpl-industrial-applicability-01
>>>>>> (Pascal - 10mn) [35]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 5) Industrial Deterministic Routing Extension for Low-Power
>>>>>> and Lossy Networks (M. Wei - 10mn) [45]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 6) RPL deployment experience in large scale networks
>>>>>> draft-hui-vasseur-roll-rpl-deployment (TBD - 5mn) [50]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 7) RPL applicability in industrial networks
>>>>>> draft-phinney-roll-rpl-industrial-applicability-01
>>>>>> (Pascal - 10mn) [60]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 8) Loop Free DODAG Local Repair (Jianlin Guo - 10mn) [70]
>>>>>> draft-guo-roll-loop-free-dodag-repair
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> JP and Michael.
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