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Re: [Roll] Alvaro's review on turnon Rfc 8138 07

"Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com> Tue, 07 July 2020 13:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Roll] Alvaro's review on turnon Rfc 8138 07
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> 
> Li Zhao \(liz3\) <liz3=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>     > For instance, we should switch to  8138 instance from border router one
>     > by one in order to make millions of meters stable.
>     > Meters MAY migrate from non-8138 instance to 8138 instance during the
> switch.
>     > These meters should operate as leaves and wait for further operation
>     > (maybe firmware upgrade).
> 
> So you'd need a firmware upgrade before they could learn they need to be
> leaves.  If you can eventually upgrade everything, then great.
> 

Not really. Our step 1) uses RFC 6550 mandates.

Pascal

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