Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-transports-00.txt)
Victor Pascual <victor.pascual.avila@gmail.com> Tue, 27 August 2013 14:34 UTC
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From: Victor Pascual <victor.pascual.avila@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:34:37 +0200
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-transports-00.txt)
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I agree -Victor On Aug 27, 2013, at 2:53 PM, <Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I would support the adoption of the NAT and Firewall considerations (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hutton-rtcweb-nat-firewall-considerations-01) as a WG document. Or to be more precise, I very much agree with the requirements summarized in Section 5. Especially this one seems important to me: > > o connect to a TURN server via a HTTP proxy using the HTTP connect > method, > > If we want WebRTC to work from many corporate networks I’m aware of, it would not be possible without this as a fallback capability. > > Markus > > > > From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Bernard Aboba > Sent: 21 August, 2013 00:44 > To: Hutton, Andrew; rtcweb@ietf.org; Harald Alvestrand > Subject: Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-transports-00.txt > > The NAT/Firewall considerations document does go into detail on the various traversal scenarios, which helps inform the discussion of what should or should not be supported in terms of transport. Section 5 summarizes the recommendations as follows: > > 5. Requirements for RTCWEB-enabled browsers > > > > For the purpose of relaying RTCWEB media streams or data channels a > browser needs to be able to > > o connect to a TURN server via UDP, TCP and TLS, > > o connect to a TURN server via a HTTP proxy using the HTTP connect > method, > > o connect to a TURN server via the HTTP(s) ports 80/443 instead of > the default STUN ports 3478/5349, > > o upgrade the HTTP proxy-relayed connection to the TURN server to > use TLS, > > o use the same proxy selection procedure for TURN as currently done > for HTTP, > > o switch the usage of the HTTP proxy-relayed connection with the > TURN server from HTTP to STUN/TURN, > > o use a preconfigured or standardized port range for UDP-based media > streams or data channels, > > o learn from the proxy configuration script about the presence of a > local TURN server and use it for sending UDP traffic to the > internet, > > o support ICE-TCP for TCP-based direct media connection to the > RTCWEB peer. > > > > From: andrew.hutton@siemens-enterprise.com > > To: rtcweb@ietf.org; harald@alvestrand.no > > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 16:31:28 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-transports-00.txt > > > > Section 2.2 "Middle Box Related Functions" should also I assume cover the case of using a HTTP Proxy or an enterprise TURN server and reference http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hutton-rtcweb-nat-firewall-considerations-01 assuming we can get this adopted. > > > > Regards > > Andy > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb
- [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D Act… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Victor Pascual
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Mary Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Alan Johnston
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Avasarala, Ranjit (NSN - IN/Bangalore)
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… cb.list6
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Mary Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Mary Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations and draf… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Tirumaleswar Reddy (tireddy)
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Mary Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Mary Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] NAT/Firewall considerations (RE: I-D… Magnus Westerlund