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Re: [rtcweb] x264 vs OpenH264 (Was: On the topic of MTI video codecs)

Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org> Fri, 01 November 2013 17:15 UTC

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From: Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org>
Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:15:15 +0100
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To: Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] x264 vs OpenH264 (Was: On the topic of MTI video codecs)
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On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> wrote:
> IIUC, by providing a BSD implementation, developers will be able to build
> the library directly into their apps, if they're willing to accept the
> MPEG-LA restrictions.  This could be helpful for developers who are willing
> to pay the license fees, or who are too small to be required to pay the
> license (think I had head 100k users).  The BSD licensed implementation
> means that those developers don't have to either (1) bother with the Cisco
> song and dance or (2) worry about GPL restrictions.

True, but both (1) and (2) would be possible with x264. What you gain
with the BSD license is the possibility to distribute it yourself with
non-GPL compatible code, in which case however you lose the Cisco
grant on the patent anyway.

Emil

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