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Re: [rtcweb] Review request for RTCWeb standard signaling protocol

"Ravindran Parthasarathi" <pravindran@sonusnet.com> Tue, 18 October 2011 11:31 UTC

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From: Ravindran Parthasarathi <pravindran@sonusnet.com>
To: "Avasarala, Ranjit" <Ranjit.Avasarala@Polycom.com>, Saúl Ibarra Corretgé <saul@ag-projects.com>
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Agreed Ranjit.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Avasarala, Ranjit [mailto:Ranjit.Avasarala@Polycom.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 2:08 PM
>To: Ravindran Parthasarathi; Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
>Cc: rtcweb@ietf.org
>Subject: RE: [rtcweb] Review request for RTCWeb standard signaling
>protocol
>
>That's the whole issue. We need some mechanism for web browsers to
>negotiate offer/answer and ICE candidates between each other. Using SIP
>for this over websockets would bring in unnecessary overheads. But we
>still need some mechanism. So something which is "simple" is needed.
>
>Regards
>Ranjit
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
>Of Ravindran Parthasarathi
>Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:46 PM
>To: Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
>Cc: rtcweb@ietf.org
>Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Review request for RTCWeb standard signaling
>protocol
>
>Saul,
>
>One minor correction in your mail: I have mentioned "SIP over websocket"
>is an overkill and not SIP.
>
>Thanks
>Partha
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Saúl Ibarra Corretgé [mailto:saul@ag-projects.com]
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 12:32 PM
>>To: Ravindran Parthasarathi
>>Cc: Iñaki Baz Castillo; rtcweb@ietf.org
>>Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Review request for RTCWeb standard signaling
>>protocol
>>
>>
>>On Oct 17, 2011, at 7:00 PM, Ravindran Parthasarathi wrote:
>>
>>> The point to be noted is folks put forth the same argument again &
>>again..each time, it is not possible to come up new answer ;-) I
>noticed
>>often you complain as if your important is missed out. We are arguing
>>only about "nothing" vs "something" as a RTCWeb signaling protocol.
>>>
>>> I clearly explained why SIP over websocket is an overkill in the
>below
>>mail thread. Please read it and don't argue that it is working. All the
>>working stuff is not good. Infact for any protocol, the first idea pop-
>>up is to tunnel the complete inside (For Ex: ISUP over SIP) but always
>>better ways to solve it.
>>>
>>
>>Let me connect the dots: you are advocating for a new 'simple' protocol
>>instead of taking an existing one, SIP for example, which you called
>>'overkill'. And earlier in this thread you mentioned that you are
>>interested in gateways.
>>
>>I now understand what you are trying to do.
>>
>>--
>>Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
>>AG Projects
>>
>>
>
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