Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness-02.txt
"Karl Stahl" <karl.stahl@intertex.se> Fri, 11 April 2014 23:06 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness-02.txt
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-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Harald Alvestrand [mailto:harald@alvestrand.no] Skickat: den 11 april 2014 12:55 Till: Karl Stahl; rtcweb@ietf.org Ämne: Re: SV: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness-02.txt On 04/11/2014 12:49 PM, Karl Stahl wrote: > Harald, > > Just remembered regarding ICE Lite in your transport document; I think > your statement regarding ICE, not ICE Lite therein, should be > clarified so it is understood that browsers must (also) operate > against ICE Lite devices (typical for a gateway). Huh? As far as I understand ICE-Lite, any full ICE implementation will interoperate with an ICE-Lite implementation without any special handling. Thus, any ICE implementation that doesn't do so has a bug. --- Agree, that is correct. I don't want to put in the document a statement that says "MUST implement ICE and MUST NOT have bugs that prevent interoperability with ICE-Lite". That's just not helpful. --- I am sure you can express it in a way that WOULD be helpful :) (I myself had to ask our developers to get that understanding, so, just a point to make it clearer and avoid doubts - we are not all experts on the details of all specs.) /Karl > > (That is the way it already works in Chrome - buggy in Firefox though) > > /Karl > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: rtcweb [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] För Christer Holmberg > Skickat: den 11 april 2014 08:52 > Till: Ram Mohan R (rmohanr); rtcweb@ietf.org > Ämne: Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: > draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness-02.txt > > Hi, > > I think it would be good to have some text about usage of consent > freshness when one entity is ICE lite. > > And, I think it would be good to make it more clear that the usage of > consent is always negotiated per direction. > > Thanks! > > Regards, > > Christer > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rtcweb [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ram Mohan R > (rmohanr) > Sent: 11. huhtikuuta 2014 8:01 > To: rtcweb@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: > draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness-02.txt > > Summary of changes in this revision > > Addressed the comments received from the WG. > Removed the timers definition from solution overview and made the text > more generic. > Incorporated text from draft-thomson-rtcweb-consent. > Most of the text of solution overview is re-written however the idea > is still kept intact > > > Comments are welcome. > > There is still some dangling reference (text) to SRTP/DTLS mechanism > for consent which we will modify in the next revision > > > Regards, > Authors > > -----Original Message----- > From: "internet-drafts@ietf.org" <internet-drafts@ietf.org> > Date: Friday, 11 April 2014 9:07 am > To: "i-d-announce@ietf.org" <i-d-announce@ietf.org> > Cc: "rtcweb@ietf.org" <rtcweb@ietf.org> > Subject: [rtcweb] I-D Action: > draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness-02.txt > >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> directories. >> This draft is a work item of the Real-Time Communication in >> WEB-browsers Working Group of the IETF. >> >> Title : STUN Usage for Consent Freshness >> Authors : Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal >> Dan Wing >> Ram Mohan Ravindranath >> Tirumaleswar Reddy >> Martin Thomson >> Filename : draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness-02.txt >> Pages : 8 >> Date : 2014-04-10 >> >> Abstract: >> To prevent sending excessive traffic to an endpoint, periodic consent >> needs to be obtained from that remote endpoint. >> >> This document describes a consent mechanism using a new STUN usage. >> This same mechanism can also determine connection loss ("liveness") >> with a remote peer. >> >> >> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-fresh >> ne >> ss/ >> >> There's also a htmlized version available at: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-freshness-0 >> 2 >> >> A diff from the previous version is available at: >> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-consent-fresh >> ne >> ss- >> 02 >> >> >> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of >> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at >> tools.ietf.org. >> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> rtcweb mailing list >> rtcweb@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > -- Surveillance is pervasive. Go Dark.
- [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-conse… internet-drafts
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-c… Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-c… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-c… Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-c… Karl Stahl
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-c… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-c… Ram Mohan R (rmohanr)
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-c… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-c… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-c… Karl Stahl
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-c… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rtcweb-stun-c… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Lite, Was: I-D Action: draft-iet… Karl Stahl
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Lite, Was: I-D Action: draft-iet… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Lite, Was: I-D Action: draft-iet… Cullen Jennings (fluffy)
- Re: [rtcweb] ICE-Lite, Was: I-D Action: draft-iet… Karl Stahl