Re: [rtcweb] Proposed Video Selection Process

Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org> Thu, 21 November 2013 21:21 UTC

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From: Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Proposed Video Selection Process
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The IETF does not vote!

This is not a democracy!

We reach consensus based on technical arguments or we declare lack thereof.

The fact that I could afford a plane ticket to this meeting, had the time
to post on that mailing list or sent a +1 message on an XMPP MUC does not
make me more or less qualified to cast a vote on this topic than anyone
else.

The criteria that is being suggested for picking a voter's base here is so
desperately arbitrary that it makes a coin flip pale in comparison. It also
shows how ill suited the IETF is for such things.

In other words, +1 to what Peter said and let's stick to what we actually
can do.

--sent from my mobile
On 21 Nov 2013 19:26, "Peter Saint-Andre" <stpeter@stpeter.im>; wrote:

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> On 11/21/13 9:51 AM, Magnus Westerlund wrote:
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> > The method we propose is based on Instant-runoff voting,
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting, with the
> > understanding that the choice will be the winner according to the
> > Instant-runoff voting process.
>
> I have the greatest respect for the chairs, but this is an engraved
> invitation for people to appeal whatever decision might be reached.
>
> More fundamentally: Voting? At the IETF?? Really?!?
>
> I sincerely hope we can figure out a better process...
>
> Peter
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> - --
> Peter Saint-Andre
> https://stpeter.im/
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