Re: [rtcweb] Proposed Video Selection Process

"Ashish V. Thapliyal" <quavtum@gmail.com> Fri, 22 November 2013 21:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Proposed Video Selection Process
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Dear Chairs,
         I have participated in a face-to-face interim meeting in 2012 and
have been closely following the discussions on this list.

         I appreciate your heroic efforts to get to consensus on a
mandatory-to-implement video codec.  I am against the proposal to put this
issue to vote.  It will be hard to get it right and it will generate a lot
of complaints about who gets to vote and who does not.  In my opinion, a
fair coin toss, or allowing "either H.264 or VP8" would be preferable.
         Another interesting proposal, mentioned later in this email
thread, is the decoupling of encoder and decoder requirements.  In
particular, the idea of making both VP8 and H.264 decoders mandatory to
implement, while allowing a choice of either VP8 or H.264 encoders, is very
interesting.  It may provide a good avenue for compromise while giving us
most of the benefits of choosing one of the codecs.  It may also discourage
patent trolling because if one of the encoders gets hit by an unforeseen
intellectual property issue,  vendors could switch to the other, without
waiting for a change in the standards.


Thanks,
Ashish.