Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking-requirements-00
Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> Tue, 25 October 2011 08:39 UTC
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2011/10/25 Ravindran Parthasarathi <pravindran@sonusnet.com>: > I'll take A1-1 requirement of SIP forking wherein it is very much > possible for RTCWEB-SIP gateway to hide the forking functionality from > browser and it is normal B2BUA (SBC in market term) functionality in SIP > wherein originating SIP UA does not support forking properly. IOW, > please don't add requirement in RTCWeb for the sake SIP interop and it > is possible to design the better gateway if required. Please take into account that some of us also desire to interoperate with SIP but we *don't* need a B2BUA/SBC neither a protocol gateway for such interconnection (instead we are using *now* a SIP proxy implementing SIP over WebSocket so the JavaScript application becomes a real SIP UA). Having said that, SIP forking is a *feature* rather than a punishment. It adds complexity of course, but still it's an useful feature. Some of us want to deal with that complexity at UA level (JavaScript). Some others would prefer not to allow forking in their RTC-Web scenarios so have no need to deal with forking. Let's the people choose it. > I'm looking for > standard RTCWeb signaling protocol like ROAP by which better solution > for RTCWeb-federation gateway is documented in IETF. Yes, you want to mandate some specific in-the-wire signaling protocol in RTCweb and force me, and others, to use a RTCWeb-SIP gateway box (regardless I already have my RTCweb solution ready to interop with a SIP network in the signaling plane without using protocol gateways). I would ask you to read this draft in which different RTCweb scenarios are described: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sipdoc-rtcweb-open-wire-protocol-00 > Also, I'm interested in hearing about other RTCWeb federation protocol > like Jingle before doing the deep-dive into the requirement because my > gut feeling is that we will end-up in multiple federation protocol > rather than single. I hope that we will end with *no one* federation protocol so each website can decide what to use in case it wants to federate with other website. Web will decide, as it always does. The important point here is to leave the Web the freedom to choose whichever federation mechanism. Some mechanism/protocol will success more than others and will become de facto RTCweb federation protocol in the Web. This is how things work in the Web. Regards. -- Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>
- [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking-req… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking… Hadriel Kaplan
- [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draft-ka… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE:draft… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE:draft… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Timothy B. Terriberry
- [rtcweb] New usecase & requirement for media fork… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Stefan Håkansson
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] New usecase & requirement for media … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Randell Jesup
- [rtcweb] SDES and forking [was RE: RTCWeb Forking… Christer Holmberg
- [rtcweb] SDES and forking [was RE: RTCWeb Forking… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] New usecase & requirement for media … Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] New usecase & requirement for media … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] New usecase & requirement for media … Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] New usecase & requirement for media … Harald Alvestrand