Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking-requirements-00]
Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> Sat, 29 October 2011 22:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking-requirements-00]
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2011/10/29 Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>: > Hi, > >> Yes, but in theory we don't need to support ROAP forking to let you do that, because you don't need to do it that way. For example you >> can write the JS to send a "session request" message without any ROAP/SDP, and as each "session response" comes back from each team >> member with a ROAP OFFER, the local JS creates a new PeerConnection and sends back to each team member a ROAP ANSWER from you. >> So basically mimicking the offerless-INVITE model of SIP. > > That would cause issues with SIP interworking. I hope we can agree on the fact that many (most?) SIP environments and use-cases rely on the SDP offer being sent in the INVITE. The gateway would end up having to map SIP answers into ROAP offers, and vice verse, which could become very messy. > > And, when the gateway receveis on offerless ROAD offer, if it needs to map it into an INVITE with an SDP offer, what information would it include in the SDP offer? Take into account that not all of us will require a protocol gateway :) -- Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net>
- [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking-req… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] draft-kaplan-rtcweb-sip-interworking… Hadriel Kaplan
- [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draft-ka… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE:draft… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE:draft… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Timothy B. Terriberry
- [rtcweb] New usecase & requirement for media fork… Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Stefan Håkansson
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] New usecase & requirement for media … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWeb Forking usecase [was RE: draf… Randell Jesup
- [rtcweb] SDES and forking [was RE: RTCWeb Forking… Christer Holmberg
- [rtcweb] SDES and forking [was RE: RTCWeb Forking… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] New usecase & requirement for media … Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] New usecase & requirement for media … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] New usecase & requirement for media … Ravindran Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] New usecase & requirement for media … Harald Alvestrand