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Re: [rtcweb] JSEP-04: Some comments on Section 5.2.1. and 5.2.2 (19th september)

Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Fri, 20 September 2013 10:37 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] JSEP-04: Some comments on Section 5.2.1. and 5.2.2 (19th september)
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On 09/20/2013 12:20 PM, Christer Holmberg wrote:
>
> I really hope BUNDLE will be used as described in BUNDLE. At least 
> that should be our starting point. If we want to change something, it 
> shall be justified and discussed, before put into a document.
>
> In addition, in the example flow in JSEP, BUNDLE IS used with 
> different addresses, so an alignment will be needed in any case.
>
>

Since we're all tracking moving objects, I think we have to write text 
as best we can, and just point out which parts are normative and which 
parts are not.

In this particular case, using MUST language for whether or not ICE 
credentials are the same or different is inappropriate for this spec; 
instead it should say something like "The BUNDLE spec says that it MUST 
generate".

Then we just make sure it gets right before BUNDLE is published.

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