Re: [rtcweb] Video codec selection - way forward
Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Thu, 14 November 2013 10:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Video codec selection - way forward
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Gustavo, I will remove this alternative from the list. I request all alternatives to be focused on only what is Mandatory to Implement. We can discuss recommendations or should levels after we have made a decision on the mandatory level. Cheers Magnus On 2013-11-14 06:35, Gustavo Garcia wrote: > 8. All entities MUST support VP8 and H.264 is RECOMMENDED to implement > > Ensure interoperability with a common codec and avoid transcoding when > interconnecting with non-WebRTC platforms/devices as much as possible. > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Gonzalo Camarillo > <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com <mailto:Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com>> > wrote: > > Folks, > > I hope everybody had a safe trip back home after Vancouver. > > As you all know, we need to make progress regarding the selection of the > MTI video codec. The following are some of the alternatives we have on > the table: > > 1. All entities MUST support H.264 > 2. All entities MUST support VP8 > 3. All entities MUST support both H.264 and VP8 > 4. Browsers MUST support both H.264 and VP8 > 5. All entities MUST support either H.264 or VP8 > 6. All entities MUST support H.261 > 7. There is no MTI video codec > > If you want the group to consider additional alternatives to the ones > above, please let the group know within the following *two weeks*. At > that point, the chairs will be listing all the received alternatives and > proposing a process to select one among them. > > Please, send your proposals in an email to the list. You do not need to > write a draft; just send the text you would like to see in the final > document regarding video codecs. > > Thanks, > > Gonzalo > Responsible AD for this WG > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org <mailto:rtcweb@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > > > > > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb > -- Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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