Re: [rtcweb] Proposed Video Selection Process

Stefan Slivinski <sslivinski@lifesize.com> Thu, 21 November 2013 21:15 UTC

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I think arguing in favor of a legacy codec is completely counter productive to the proliferation of webrtc.  This working group is attempting to avoid dealing with the obvious IPR issues with vp8 and h.264 that any and every webrtc vendor is going to have to deal with.  We are basically saying 'we don't know how to deal with this problem so you're on your own' which is completely the wrong message to send as an organization.

Can you imagine if the bluray groups said we don't want to deal with h.264 IPR issues so we'll just mandate h.261? 



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From: Martin Thomson [mailto:martin.thomson@gmail.com]
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To: Basil Mohamed Gohar <basilgohar@librevideo.org>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Proposed Video Selection Process

On 21 November 2013 12:48, Basil Mohamed Gohar
<basilgohar@librevideo.org> wrote:
> Has anyone actually objected to H.261 being the one MTI codec [...] ?

More than one person has already.

And I find the argument raised quite compelling.  It's hard to justify
spending valuable time and resources on implementing something that
crappy.
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