RE: draft-palanivelan-bfd-v2-gr-08

"Palanivelan A (apvelan)" <apvelan@cisco.com> Fri, 29 October 2010 06:33 UTC

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Subject: RE: draft-palanivelan-bfd-v2-gr-08
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From: "Palanivelan A (apvelan)" <apvelan@cisco.com>
To: Dave Katz <dkatz@juniper.net>, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>
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My experience with the process is not much to talk about but let me
confirm it is not easy even to get it to Historic :).
I loved to be part of working group in working through this document and
unfortunately it did not happen. 

Any good suggestions in how to go about, I would love to take it Dave.

Regards,
A.Palanivelan

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From: Dave Katz [mailto:dkatz@juniper.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 1:15 AM
To: Donald Eastlake
Cc: rtg-bfd WG; Palanivelan A (apvelan)
Subject: Re: draft-palanivelan-bfd-v2-gr-08

I stand corrected.

I assume that there is at least some hurdle to cross to publish a
Historic RFC;  otherwise I could publish my grocery lists or something.
;-)

--Dave

On Oct 28, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Donald Eastlake wrote:

> On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Dave Katz <dkatz@juniper.net> wrote:
>> ...
>> I don't think that there is any mechanism for an ID to achieve
Historic
>> status (which is a misnomer in this case), though I'm not an IETF
process
>> expert;  IDs are purged after six months.  If I understand correctly,
>> Historic status is used to classify older RFCs whose technology has
been
>> abandoned or otherwise overtaken by events.  I don't believe there is
any
>> mechanism by which this draft can be archived within the IETF.
> 
> A number of RFCs have been issued originally as Historic. The most
> recent three were RFC 6037, RFC 5806, and RFC 5773 for which the
> official announcements are here:
> 
>
https://www.ietf.org/ibin/c5i?mid=6&rid=49&gid=0&k1=934&k2=8514&tid=1288
292436
>
https://www.ietf.org/ibin/c5i?mid=6&rid=49&gid=0&k1=934&k2=7673&tid=1288
292698
>
https://www.ietf.org/ibin/c5i?mid=6&rid=49&gid=0&k1=934&k2=7505&tid=1288
292756
> 
> Donald
> 
>