Re: [RTG-DIR] [Mtgvenue] Rtgdir telechat review of draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-12

[Alissa Cooper <[e-mail]>]

> On Feb 5, 2018, at 2:06 PM, Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
> On 06/02/2018 04:40, Pete Resnick wrote:
>> Hi Stewart,
>> 
>> Thanks for the review. Just on the things that Eliot hasn't already 
>> covered
>> 
>> On 5 Feb 2018, at 5:04, Stewart Bryant wrote:
> ...>> Where we meet?
>>>      We meet in different locations globally, in order to spread the
>>>      difficulty and cost of travel among active participants, 
>>> balancing
>>>      travel time and expense across the regions in which IETF
>>>      participants are based.
>>> 
>>> SB> Given the support and encouragement of remote participants, there 
>>> ought to
>>> be a note about sharing unreasonable time zone difference pain across 
>>> the
>>> spectrum of remote participants.
>> 
>> I don't believe we currently do take that into account in location 
>> selection (perhaps others can chime in), so this would be a new 
>> requirement. We could bring this back to the WG to try and get consensus 
>> around it, but that doesn't excite me. :-) I'll leave it to my fearless 
>> AD to advise.
> 
> Having participated in the IETF while living in UTC+1, UTC, UTC-6
> and UTC+12 at various times, all with or with daylight savings, I feel almost
> uniquely qualified to comment on this.
> 
> Firstly, add jet lag for the in-person participants to the mix. Then
> try to work out the optimisation function across all participants,
> to simultaneously minimise jet lag effects and unsocial hours.
> 
> I think it's impossible. At the very least, it's a rat hole. So I
> highly recommend leaving this issue aside.

Fully agree.
Alissa

> 
>    Brian