Re: [RTG-DIR] [babel] About Babel management [was: RTG-DIR QA review...]

["STARK, BARBARA H" <[e-mail]>]

Hi Susan,
I hope Juliusz and Toke don't mind, but I'll provide my thoughts re babel management, as the current author of draft-ietf-babel-information-model.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-babel-information-model-01 

We agreed to start with an information model, rather than go directly to some management protocol's data model, because babel may be implemented in ISP-supplied CE routers which are almost all managed using BBF TR-069 today. But I understand YANG models are expected to exist for all IETF routing protocols.
By starting with the information model, subsequent BBF and YANG data models can be created that can easily be mapped from one to the other.

The current draft-ietf-babel-information-model has a few parameters that an implementation may choose to allow to be configurable. All are readable.
Statistics (for monitoring) are on the to-do list. 

I have no intention of creating a YANG module (not my specialty and not something I have need of) from this information model. That would need to be an exercise for someone else. I do expect to create the BBF TR-069 data model. In BBF.

Sorry I didn't pick from your 1 - 4 options, but I hope this provides you with the information you need?
Barbara

> -----Original Message-----
> From: babel [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Susan Hares
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 4:39 AM
> To: 'Toke Høiland-Jørgensen' <[e-mail]>; 'Juliusz Chroboczek'
> <[e-mail]>
> Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail]; 'Russ White' <[e-mail]>; 'David
> Schinazi' <[e-mail]>; 'Alia Atlas' <[e-mail]>; 'Donald
> Eastlake' <[e-mail]>; STARK, BARBARA H <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: [babel] [RTG-DIR] About Babel management [was: RTG-DIR QA
> review...]
> 
> Toke and Juliusz:
> 
> Before I send my next Babel set of comments, can you tell me what
> management you want to standardize?  Please choose one of the following
> options:
> 
> 1) None - it is all proprietary
> 2) Yang modules - for configuration
> 3) Yang modules for monitoring
> 4) Specific configuration knobs - not as yang modules.
> 
> Thank you,
> Susan Hares
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rtg-dir [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Toke Høiland-
> Jørgensen
> Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 12:33 PM
> To: Juliusz Chroboczek; Susan Hares
> Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail]; 'Russ White'; 'Alia Atlas'; Barbara Stark;
> 'Donald Eastlake'; 'David Schinazi'
> Subject: Re: [RTG-DIR] [babel] About Babel management [was: RTG-DIR QA
> review...]
> 
> Juliusz Chroboczek <[e-mail]> writes:
> 
> > As you can see, we are actively working with our users on management
> > for Babel. There is a lot of exciting and novel experimentation going
> > on, and it is therefore my opinion that it would be a mistake to
> > mandate a single style of management in rfc6126bis.
> 
> +1 on that assessment :)
> 
> -Toke
> 
> 
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