Re: Discussion on draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp-03

Balaji venkat Venkataswami <balajivenkat299@gmail.com> Tue, 28 August 2012 18:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: Discussion on draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp-03
From: Balaji venkat Venkataswami <balajivenkat299@gmail.com>
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Dear Eric,

Here is an attempt that we made to get this draft and a few others entered
for consideration in the IRTF.

Tony Li responded as follows...

So, the first question is whether or not this counts as research or
engineering.  Glancing at it, it looks to me like you're on the engineering
side of the world.  It would then make sense to spark an email discussion
on the rtgwg mailing list.

You have on the other hand branded this as research.

Is there a different picture IRTF and IETF see or is it a question of
subjectivity ?

Your opinion would be most useful.

thanks and regards,
balaji venkat
On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Eric Osborne (eosborne) <eosborne@cisco.com
> wrote:

> Some comments:
>
> 1)  This is clearly a cut and paste of an academic paper, as your
> Acknowledgements indicate.  This sort of stuff rarely goes anywhere in the
> IETF as the IETF is not a research journal.  To move towards
> standardization you'd need support from one or more operators stating that
> the problem you solve is  a real problem for them, and that your solution
> is both effective and deployable in practice.  Note that this support has
> more heft if it comes from the operations side, not from the research
> department.  Do you have such support?
>
> 2) Your document assumes massive amounts of cooperation between ASes,
> including inter-AS TE LSPs.  You may want to investigate the operational
> feasibility of this cooperation.
>
>
>
>
>
> eric
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
> > Of Balaji venkat Venkataswami
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:10 AM
> > To: rtgwg@ietf.org
> > Cc: Shankar Raman M J; Gaurav Raina
> > Subject: Discussion on draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp-03
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > We would like the working group members opinion and comments on the
> > following draft.
> >
> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp-03
> >
> > Please feel free to comment on the same.
> >
> > thanks and regards,
> > balaji venkat
>