Re: Discussion on draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp-03

Balaji venkat Venkataswami <balajivenkat299@gmail.com> Tue, 28 August 2012 18:54 UTC

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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 00:24:24 +0530
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Subject: Re: Discussion on draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp-03
From: Balaji venkat Venkataswami <balajivenkat299@gmail.com>
To: "Eric Osborne (eosborne)" <eosborne@cisco.com>, tony.ti@tony.li
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Cc: Shankar Raman M J <mjsraman@gmail.com>, rtgwg@ietf.org
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Including Tony Li

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Balaji venkat Venkataswami <
balajivenkat299@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Eric,
>
> Here is an attempt that we made to get this draft and a few others entered
> for consideration in the IRTF.
>
> Tony Li responded as follows...
>
> So, the first question is whether or not this counts as research or
> engineering.  Glancing at it, it looks to me like you're on the engineering
> side of the world.  It would then make sense to spark an email discussion
> on the rtgwg mailing list.
>
> You have on the other hand branded this as research.
>
> Is there a different picture IRTF and IETF see or is it a question of
> subjectivity ?
>
> Your opinion would be most useful.
>
> thanks and regards,
> balaji venkat
>
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Eric Osborne (eosborne) <
> eosborne@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>> Some comments:
>>
>> 1)  This is clearly a cut and paste of an academic paper, as your
>> Acknowledgements indicate.  This sort of stuff rarely goes anywhere in the
>> IETF as the IETF is not a research journal.  To move towards
>> standardization you'd need support from one or more operators stating that
>> the problem you solve is  a real problem for them, and that your solution
>> is both effective and deployable in practice.  Note that this support has
>> more heft if it comes from the operations side, not from the research
>> department.  Do you have such support?
>>
>> 2) Your document assumes massive amounts of cooperation between ASes,
>> including inter-AS TE LSPs.  You may want to investigate the operational
>> feasibility of this cooperation.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> eric
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
>> > Of Balaji venkat Venkataswami
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:10 AM
>> > To: rtgwg@ietf.org
>> > Cc: Shankar Raman M J; Gaurav Raina
>> > Subject: Discussion on draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp-03
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > We would like the working group members opinion and comments on the
>> > following draft.
>> >
>> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp-03
>> >
>> > Please feel free to comment on the same.
>> >
>> > thanks and regards,
>> > balaji venkat
>>
>
>

Discussion on draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-psp-03 Balaji venkat Venkataswami
RE: Discussion on draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-p… Eric Osborne (eosborne)
Re: Discussion on draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-p… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
Re: Discussion on draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-p… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
RE: Discussion on draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-p… Eric Osborne (eosborne)
Re: Discussion on draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-p… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
Re: Discussion on draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-p… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
Re: Discussion on draft-mjsraman-rtgwg-inter-as-p… Tony Li