Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt
Curtis Villamizar <curtis@occnc.com> Sat, 23 March 2013 16:24 UTC
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To: Russ White <russw@riw.us>
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Subject: Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt
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In message <514DBE23.4040108@riw.us> Russ White writes: > > > So before anyone writes any more problem statements, requirements, > > frameworks, or complete solutions for energy aware networks, we need > > to have some research and some hard facts about where energy goes and > > where there are opportunities to save energy. We also should be > > asking whether providers and high end network equipment vendors see a > > need for any protocol work in this area. So far the answer is a > > resounding "no". > > I actually disagree... > > The point of this draft is to guide the research into what would make > sense and what wouldn't, not to make a definitive statement. I > understand the perspective that, "if it doesn't save x amount of power, > it's not worth doing..." > > But technology changes, after all, and in just a few short years the > answer to that question might well change. So, if we come to the point > where the answer changes, how have we defined the question? > > This draft is about defining the questions that need to be asked, not > about doing work in answering those questions. > > Different topic, IMHO. > > :-) > > Russ Russ, If our starting point is total cluelessness, then defining a taxonomy of the solution space would be very counterproductive. Stretch and microsleeps are solution space and I'd argue that the best solutions for core may involve neither. There is no highly credible evidence that either has an impact on core network energy usage and IMO stronger arguments that it would have no effect or infeasible (microsleeping finely tuned temperature compensated colored lasers?) than the the very weak arguments (mostly speculation) that there is benefits to these two approaches for core. So the research happen where it belongs - elsewhere. Then when there is credible research presented, it might be time to consider a taxonomy of the problem and solution space in an SDO. Curtis
- FW: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt Alvaro Retana (aretana)
- Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt Russ White
- Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt Russ White
- RE: FW: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt Mingui Zhang
- Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: FW: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt Curtis Villamizar
- Re: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt Shane Amante
- Re: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt Tony Tauber
- RE: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt Mingui Zhang
- Re: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt Mick Seaman
- Re: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt Curtis Villamizar
- RE: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt Mingui Zhang
- RE: I-D Action: draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-01.txt Eric Osborne (eosborne)