Re: the shen-mpls-nnhop Was:(Re: thoughts on draft-bryant-shand-ipfrr-notvia-addresses-00.txt)

Loa Andersson <loa@pi.se> Wed, 18 May 2005 09:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: the shen-mpls-nnhop Was:(Re: thoughts on draft-bryant-shand-ipfrr-notvia-addresses-00.txt)
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Maiming and Stewart,

you wrote - and I guess this is valid:

Naiming Shen wrote:

> I think the needs start emerging, any important services
> riding on top of IP/MPLS transport infrastructure needs
> fast convergence services. It's not reasonable to assume
> only RSVP-TE LSPs need fast reroute, and other
> network transport does not. This nnhop-ldp draft is to
> facilitate the LDP based MPLS network for FRR with
> node protection. I have been talking to some providers
> in the past year, there are certainly interests in
> this service.


Stewart Bryant wrote:
 >
 > I think the interest that we are seeing in IPFRR for LDP
 > networks demonstrates the usefulness of this work. Sure
 > RSVP-TE FRR exists, but some customers have expressed
 > an interest in a solution that does not use RSVP.
 >

However the MPLS working group need to take a decision if,
when and how this functionality should be developed.


The way of doing this would be

- write down the requirements
- send them to the mpls wg
- we go through the moces to establish the mpls wg consensus

Comments:

- I don't think FRR for LDP based MPLS enabled IP networks
   should not go into the rtgwg, the charter of the rtgwg seems
   to say the rtgwg takes of everything that does not fit into
   other routing are working groups (Alex and Bill comments on this?)

- my take is that for this purpose you could either document
   the requirements in a separate document or put them into one
   the existing documents. I've no preferences, but this should
   be rather short.

- my preference would be to speed this up so we could have
   a decision going into the Paris meeting.

Also I think it will be right to take this discussion to the
mpls wg list. I will write a mail to mpls list to that effect.


/Loa

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Loa Andersson

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