Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals
Tim Harrison <timothy.harrison.0@gmail.com> Tue, 16 May 2017 03:38 UTC
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 23:36:09 -0400
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Subject: Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals
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Apologies for the multiple emails, but there may be opportunities via individual networks as well. On May 15, 2017 11:30 PM, "Tim Harrison" <timothy.harrison.0@gmail.com> wrote: > Just a passing thought, but one might recruit candidates at a known > convention and/or via a Kaizen Capture the Flag (CTF) event - > https://kaizen-ctf.com/ > > Cheers, > Tim > > On May 15, 2017 11:14 PM, "Jerome Athias" <athiasjerome@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I think it's a good idea too. >> I don't know who is supposed to participate to this hackathon? >> Potentially you could market it by capitalizing on real known events, >> (without trolling) let's say "new critical vulnerability", "for preventing >> ransomware" "FictitousCorp needs to Respond quickly and have a system to >> Identify and Protect its endpoints..." >> >> >> On Tue, 16 May 2017 at 00:30, Adam Montville <adam.w.montville@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I think that's a good idea. How do folks feel about this story? Is it >>> lacking anything? Is it too specific? What would you change about it if you >>> could? >>> >>> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 12:57 PM Waltermire, David A. (Fed) < >>> david.waltermire@nist.gov> wrote: >>> >>>> I was thinking that it would be useful to have a user story to >>>> implement against for the Hackathon. How about something like the following >>>> that maps to our goals: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> A vendor identifies a vulnerability in their software product. They >>>> produce a new version of their software and publish a vulnerability >>>> bulletin that indicates customers should upgrade to the new version to >>>> address the vulnerability. The product versions have both a SWID tag and a >>>> CoSWID tag. As a customer of this vendor that uses the affected products, >>>> we need to build a vulnerability assessment system that is capable of >>>> detecting what version of the software is installed and determine if that >>>> version is vulnerable using the vendor provided information. The Collector >>>> will be capable of gathering software inventory information from one or >>>> more target endpoints by: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 1) Requesting software inventory information for the affected >>>> software based on an ad-hoc request. >>>> >>>> 2) Reporting the software inventory as software changes occur >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Collected software inventory information will be stored in the >>>> Assessment Results Repository and will be compared to vulnerability >>>> detection data retrieved from the Vulnerability Detection Data Repository. >>>> The vulnerability detection data will be derived from the vendor provided >>>> information in some useful way to be determined by the Vulnerability >>>> Assessor. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> How does this look? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* sacm [mailto:sacm-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Adam >>>> Montville >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 09, 2017 3:30 PM >>>> *To:* sacm@ietf.org >>>> *Subject:* Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> All: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This week Dave and I have had an opportunity to discuss these a bit >>>> further. We've come up with the following set of goals and outcomes: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> GOAL: Running code demonstrating the communication needs between >>>> identified components as they pertain to the on-request collection case >>>> through the scenario, where that case is described at >>>> https://trac.ietf.org/trac/sacm/wiki/SacmVulnerabilityAss >>>> essmentScenario. OUTCOME: We will have specific understanding of >>>> components' boundaries and the necessary information flows (including >>>> information being communicated) between them. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> GOAL: Leverage existing collected data in a data repository. OUTCOME: >>>> Demonstrate that previously collected data can be reused to support >>>> vulnerability assessment >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> GOAL: Running code to extend that base case to include a mechanism >>>> capable of monitoring a given set of endpoint attributes for change. >>>> OUTCOME: We will have specific understanding of additional architectural >>>> considerations for handling monitoring vs. on-request collection, as well >>>> as any additional information flows required. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Does anyone care to bash these goal-ouctome pairs in the context of our >>>> hackathon plans? If so, please do so over the next day or two, otherwise >>>> these will become the stated goals for our hackathon. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 4:40 PM Adam Montville < >>>> adam.w.montville@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> All: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Last week Dave sent a list of milestones to the list. The first of >>>> which was for the WG to define some goals for the IETF 99 hackathon. I can >>>> see at least one primary goal with at least one stretch goal. The primary >>>> goal is to have running code demonstrating the basic/ideal case through our >>>> vulnerability scenario, where a new vulnerability is discovered and we need >>>> to reach out all the way to the endpoint to determine whether it is in fact >>>> vulnerable. A stretch goal might be to have running code demonstrating a >>>> "monitor for this vulnerability from now on" capability (I'm sure I'm not >>>> stating that as well as I could). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Does anyone have additional goals? Or, are there better ways to state >>>> these particular goals (there probably are)? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> sacm mailing list >>> sacm@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sacm >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sacm mailing list >> sacm@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sacm >> >>
- [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Adam Montville
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Adam Montville
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Waltermire, David A. (Fed)
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Adam Montville
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Jerome Athias
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Tim Harrison
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Tim Harrison
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Adam Montville
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Waltermire, David A. (Fed)
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Haynes, Dan
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Henk Birkholz
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Waltermire, David A. (Fed)
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Adam Montville
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Adam Montville
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Ira McDonald
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Adam Montville
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Waltermire, David A. (Fed)
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Haynes, Dan
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Adam Montville
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Henk Birkholz
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Henk Birkholz
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Jerome Athias
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Nancy Cam-Winget (ncamwing)
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Adam Montville
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Jessica Fitzgerald-McKay
- Re: [sacm] Hackathon Goals and Stretch Goals Adam Montville