Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanisms?
"Jun Bi" <junbi@cernet.edu.cn> Tue, 21 June 2011 13:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanisms?
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Hi Jean-Michel, What we are talking about "savi switch" is a 2.5 layer switch (layer 2 switch in data plan with layer 3-aware in controll/management plan). So what I know from switch vendor is that the 2.5 layer switch chip or the stronger CPU can handel it. For example, the chip can recongnize the Protocol ID field of IP packets to recongznie HDCP or NDP packets (even in fragments), then copy them to switch CPU. The CPU can handle it. The SAVI switch has been really implmented and deployed, so I did really see any problem in real network. BTW, it seems that SAVI switch doesn't snoop and process RA packets for binding, so maybe RA packet is different. thanks, Jun Bi -----原始邮件----- From: Jean-Michel Combes Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 9:37 PM To: SAVI Mailing List Subject: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanisms? Hi, Maybe you already know that there is a discussion on v6ops/6man MLs about RA Guard evasion (cf. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg14204.html). One of the methods to perform this evasion is fragmentation: it seems that a L2 device would not be able to re-assemble all the fragments without an important extra-cost and so would not be able to determine whether or not the message is a Router Advertisement (cf. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg14240.html). Knowing that: (1) In common use-case, SAVI device is a L2 device (2) SAVI mechanisms are based on NDP/SEND/DHCP messages inspection I am wondering whether or not fragmentation would not impact strongly SAVI specifications too: any fragmented NDP/SEND/DHCP message could not update correctly the Binding Table and so what would be the consequences? I would appreciate comments from WG members, especially implementors/manufacturers, about this. Thanks in advance for your replies. Best regards. JMC. _______________________________________________ savi mailing list savi@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/savi
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Jun Bi
- [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanisms? Jean-Michel Combes
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Jun Bi
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Jun Bi
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Jun Bi
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Alberto García
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Eric Levy-Abegnoli
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Erik Nordmark
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Jean-Michel Combes
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Jean-Michel Combes
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Jean-Michel Combes
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Guang Yao
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Jun Bi
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Jun Bi
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Jean-Michel Combes
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Jean-Michel Combes
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Alberto García
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Alberto García
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Fred Baker
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Alberto García
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Jean-Michel Combes
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Jean-Michel Combes
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Fred Baker
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Jean-Michel Combes
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Jun Bi
- Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanism… Alberto García