Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanisms?

Jean-Michel Combes <jeanmichel.combes@gmail.com> Fri, 09 September 2011 17:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [savi] Potential issue for all SAVI mechanisms?
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OK. Thanks.

I would appreciate the opinion from other people in the WG (i.e., just
mentioning the issue and the consequences v.s. mentioning the issue
and adding text about a potential solution to mitigate it), please.

Thanks.

Best regards.

JMC.

2011/9/9 Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com>:
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> On Sep 9, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Jean-Michel Combes wrote:
>
>> Hi Fred,
>>
>> same clarification: from your point of view, we have just to mention
>> the issue without adding a potential solution to
>> mitigate it, correct?
>
> Yes. From my perspective, the most likely solution to be developed in 6man is to ignore ICMP messages with headers or which arrive fragmented, so that sending the messages is at most a bandwidth dos but has no other real effect. In SAVI, however, it makes sense to mention that there is a problem.
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> JMC.
>>
>> 2011/9/6 Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com>:
>>>
>>> On Sep 6, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
>>>> It seems to me much better to note this vulnerability in SAVI, and leave it there.
>>>> If we want it fixed, 6man should simply instruct hosts not to accept RAs or DHCPs in fragmented packets.
>>>
>>> having 6man fix it makes sense to me. I'm not sure how we can fix it in SAVI without asking the switch to reassemble fragmented messages.
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